Jacob Werner

1786 - Yes, date unknown

• Name	Jacob Werner  [1, 2]
  Birth	16 Mar 1786	York County, Pennsylvania   [2]
  Christening	17 Apr 1786	Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania   [2]
  Gender	Male
  Death	Yes, date unknown
  Notes	Could there have been two Jacob Werner's born to Johann and Judith? Ancestry.com, York County, PA Church Records, 1760-1800: Codorus Township, shows a Jacob Werner born 10 Mar 1782 and Baptized on 6 Apr 1782, as well as one born 16 Mar 1786 and baptized 17 Apr 1786. It is unclear if these are two separate records, or the same original record being transcribed differently. Roger Cramer shows that Jacob married first Catharina Cramer, the daughter of Helfer Cramer and Sophia Neidig. Chuck Winter shows that he married second Juliana Cramer, also a daughter of Helfer Cramer and Sophia Neidig. Additionally, Chuck Winter shows that Jacob Werner, the son of Johannes and Judith, died ca 1846. Interestingy, the 1850 Manhiem Twp, York County, PA census shows there is a head of household named Jacob Werner. This one is younger however, born ca 1805 in PA. Though he is too young to be our Jacob, he appears to be too old to be a namesake son, at least based on the reported date of marriage (1808) between Jacob and his purported first wife, Catharine. The Jacob Werner on the 1850 census in Manheim is living with a 50 year old Cath Werner. Many of the younger Werner's in the household have the same names, and similar ages, to the children usually attributes to the Jacob Werner who married first Catharina Cramer and later her sister Julis Anna Cramer. It is not certain how the Jacob Werner, shown on the census to be born ca 1805, relates to the two older Jacob Werners' shown in York County church records as the son of Johannes and Judith Werner, if he is related at all. These families should be further researched and documented very carefully, as is is possible that they are or could be conflated or otherwise confused. Clarence E. Cramer, in his manuscript about "The Family of Johan Helfer Cramer", page 57-a, shows Jacob and Juliana as the parents of (1) Jacob Smith Warner, m. Sarah Ann HOFFACKER, buried at The Stone Church; (2) Aaron S. Werner, born 1825, m. Elizabeth BRICKER, buried at The Stone Church; (3) Sabine Werner, born 1825, m. George N. MILLER, buried at The Stone Church; (4) Amanda Werner, born 1828, single, buried at The Stone Church; (5) Henry Werner, b. 1831, married and "moved West" to Columbus, O?; (6) Jessy Werner, b. 1832, married and "moved West" to Columbus, O? (7) Anna Catharina Werner, b. 1833, m. John C. RUHLMAN, buried at The Stone Church; (8) Emaline Werner, b. 1837, m. George F. SHEARER, buied at The Stone Church, (9) Edward S. Werner, b. 1838 m. Lucinda SHEARER, b. at The Stone Church, and (10) Sarah Ella Werner, b. 1841, m. Eli WOLFGANG, buried at The Stone Church. The 1850 census Manhiem, York County, PA census has a household consisting of Jacob Werner, age 45, Cath Werner, age 50, Aaron Werner, age 26, Henry Werner, age 29, Jacob Werner, age 22, Jessee Werner (Male), age 18, Cath Werner, age 16, Emeline Werner, age 13, Edward Werner, age 12, Ellen Werner, age 10, Sarah Werner, age 10 and Jacob Werner, age 9. Another Jacob Werner, this one age 34 (born ca 1816) is in South Codorus Twp, York County, PA in 1850. This Jacob is enumerated with a Margaret (age 32), and children Adam (age 7), Daniel (age 6), Matilda (age 4), and John (age 2). Interestingly, a female named Julian Werner, age 57 (born 1793) is also listed in this household. Could this be Juliana Cramer Werner? Also shown in this household were Henry Robenstine age 36, and George Rohrbach, age 40. All occupants of the home were listed as being born in Pennsylvania.
  Person ID	I7704	Strong Family Tree
  Last Modified	17 Aug 2014

  
  

  Father	Johannes Werner,   b. Bef 1751   d. Yes, date unknown
  Mother	Juditha ???,   b. Bef 1751   d. Yes, date unknown
  Family ID	F3718	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 1	Catharina Elisabetha Cramer,   b. 6 Apr 1787, York County, Pennsylvania d. Between 1811 and 1816, York County, Pennsylvania (Age 23 years)
  Marriage	7 Apr 1808	St. Matthew's Church, Hanover, York County, Pennsylvania   [3]
  	Dean Cramer shows them as the parents of Anna Catharine Werner b. 1809, Christened Stone Church with Helfer and Sophia as sponsors, John Werner, b. 1810, Christened Stone Church, Johann Georg and Eva Worley, sponsors, and Elizabeth Werner, b. 1811 d. 1847. Clarence E. Cramer does not show this marriage, or these children.
  Family ID	F3711	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	26 Mar 2013

  
  

  Family 2	Juliana "Julyana" Cramer,   b. 28 Mar 1790, York County, Pennsylvania d. 10 Feb 1858, York County, Pennsylvania (Age 67 years)
  Marriage	7 Apr 1808	St. Matthew's Church, Hanover, York County, Pennsylvania   [1, 4]
  	Chuck Winters shows them as the parents of Jacob b. 1817, Daniel b. 1821, and Lydia b. 1824.
  Family ID	F3713	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	25 Mar 2013

  
  

• Event Map		Birth - 16 Mar 1786 - York County, Pennsylvania Christening - 17 Apr 1786 - Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania Marriage - 7 Apr 1808 - St. Matthew's Church, Hanover, York County, Pennsylvania Marriage - 7 Apr 1808 - St. Matthew's Church, Hanover, York County, Pennsylvania  = Link to Google Earth
  Pin Legend	: Address       : Location       : City/Town       : County/Shire       : State/Province       : Country       : Not Set

  
  

• Sources

  [S473] Winter, Chuck-Family Researcher (bcwinter@aristotle.net). [S1490] Ancestry.com - York County, Pennsylvania Church Records, 1760-1800: Codorus Township. [S555] Cramer, Roger E.-Family Researcher (RKCedar@aol.com). [S1539] Cramer, Clarence E. "The Family of Johan Helfer Cramer (Revolutionary War Pension W-2762) With Historical Background", (Preliminary Draft Presented at The John Cramer Family Reunion, Bascom, Ohio, August 22, 1943. Copyright 1944. Clarence Cramer, author, was a resident of Chicago, Illinois, and indicated that his book was prepared 'with the assistance of the Combined Relationship.' Copy of this manuscript is at the Historical Society of York County, 250 East Market Street, York, PA 17403, and a xerox of certain sections in the files of Melinda McLemore Strong, San Antonio, Texas.), p, 53 (Reliability: 3).