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Lillian James

Lillian James

Female 1877 - 1910  (33 years)

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  • Name Lillian James 
    Birth 19 Sep 1877  Texas Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Female 
    Death 22 Nov 1910  Stephens County, Oklahoma Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Burial Marlow Cemetery, Marlow, Stephens County, Oklahoma Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Notes 
    • Called Lillie. Fay Payne Yeager has a photograph of Thomas B and his second wife Lillie with their first child, little Clyde Marion, taken in an Indian Territory studio in about 1900. Lillie has an Indian appearance but was listed as "white" on the 1910 census. Additionally, she was not listed as a citizen of The Five Civilized Tribes.

      Later correspondence from her only surving child, Marguerite Ray, however, indicates she may indeed have been Native American. Marguerite wrote both Bessie (Gentry) Payne and Lois Payne in 1950, stating "I had my proof of heirship papers filled out in Duncan and took them by Muskogee to the Indian Agency." She also refers to help she received from Baron McClendon in this process. However, Marguerite may have been filing for benefits based solely on her father's enrollment in the Chickasaw tribe by marriage to his first wife, and not on her mother, Lillian.

      This is Lillie's census listing at the time of the 1910 census, shortly before she died:

      Oklahoma, Stephens County, Parks Township, District 240 215-215
      Payne, Luellie Head F W 32 Wd 3/3 Texas Kentucky Missouri
      Payne, Maryan (Clyde) Son M W 10 S Oklahoma Missouri
      Texas Payne, John P(aul) Son M W 9 S Oklahoma Missouri
      Texas Payne, Margrit Daughter F W 6 S Oklahoma Missouri Texas
      Payne, Walter Brother in Law M W 42 Wd Missouri Missouri Missouri Rancher
      Payne, Carl Nephew M W 13 S Oklahoma Missouri Texas
      Payne, John E. Nephew M W 5 S Oklahoma Missouri Texas

      DUNCAN WEEKLY BANNER Obituaries and Death Notices

      November 25, 1910

      The Banner, in common with the many friends of the relatives, is grieved at the announcement of the death, on Tuesday evening at 7 o'clock, of Mrs. Lillian Payne at the family home east of Duncan. She was sick only a few hours, acute conjestion being the cause of her death. Five (sic) children, the youngest five years of age, survive her. She was the wife of T. B. Payne, brother of W.W. Payne, who died about two years ago. Interment was in the Marlow cemetery yesterday afternoon.

      The inscription on her headstone reads:
      Honored beloved and We??
      Here Mother lies
      They who knew her best will
      Bless her Name
      and keep her memory dear
      While life shall last

      She MIGHT have been the daughter of Edward and Elizabeth JAMES, who were listed on the 1900 Indian Territory, Chickasaw Nation, census as follows:

      JAMES, Edward Feb 1858 Kentucky Kentucky Kentucky
      JAMES, Elizabeth Jan 1860 Texas Missouri Missouri Mother of 11 children, 10 surviving

      9 children were listed in the home with the James family. Perhaps Lillie, who married Thomas Bunker Payne in 1899, was the 10th child, the only one not living at home. I was unable to find this family in 1880 to confirm they might have had a three year old daughter named Lillian.
    Person ID I5591  Strong Family Tree
    Last Modified 17 Aug 2014 

    Family Thomas Bunker Payne,   b. 24 Nov 1864, Shelby County, Missouri Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 11 Oct 1906, Duncan, Stephens County, Oklahoma Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 41 years) 
    Marriage Abt Feb 1899  Indian Territory Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Children 
     1. Clyde Marion Payne,   b. 13 Sep 1899, Oklahoma Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 13 Apr 1924, Stillwater, Payne County, Oklahoma Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 24 years)
     2. Paul John Payne,   b. Abt 1901, Indian Territory Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 22 Jul 1922, Union City, Canadian County, Oklahoma Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 21 years)
     3. Marguerite Payne,   b. Abt 1905, Oklahoma Find all individuals with events at this location
    Family ID F1089  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 9 Dec 2006 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 19 Sep 1877 - Texas Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 22 Nov 1910 - Stephens County, Oklahoma Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBurial - - Marlow Cemetery, Marlow, Stephens County, Oklahoma Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos
    Payne, Thomas Bunker with his second wife, Lillian (James) Payne and son Marion Clyde
    Payne, Thomas Bunker with his second wife, Lillian (James) Payne and son Marion Clyde
    Although Lillie appears as if she could be Native American, no enrollment within the Five Civilized Tribes has been found. Additionally, when Thomas enrolled in the Chickasaw Nation based on his marriage to his first wife, Lillie was described as a "white woman." Thomas died six years after this photo "after a long and lingering illness like consumption." Lillie died within four years of her husband, after being "sick only a few hours." Their three young children, ages 11, 8 and 5, were left orphaned, as was Tom's older son, Thomas Hamilton Payne, 17.
    _James, Lillian
    _James, Lillian
    Second wife of Thomas Bunker Payne
    B. 1877 Texas D. 1910 Oklahoma

    Headstones
    Payne, Lillie (James)
    Payne, Lillie (James)

  • Sources 
    1. [S257] Courtesy of Kenneth Harvey, Oklahoma, Stephens Co., Marlow Cemetery Records.

    2. [S124] Harvey, Kenneth C--Family Member; Gedcom, Printed Descendants Reports of Payne and Gentry Families, Correspondence.

    3. [S459] Chickasaw Nation, Enrollment Application, Chic 1279, Thomas B. Payne.