Helen Payne

Abt 1771 - Yes, date unknown

• Name	Helen Payne  [1]
  Birth	Abt 1771
  Gender	Female
  Death	Yes, date unknown
  Person ID	I4802	Strong Family Tree
  Last Modified	17 Aug 2014

  
  

  Father	Sanford Payne,   b. Abt 1730, Westmoreland County, Virginia d. 17 Dec 1792 (Age 62 years)
  Mother	Abigail Lay,   b. Abt 1730   d. Yes, date unknown
  Marriage	Kentucky Historical Society, "Genealogies of Kentucky Families: Vol. O-Y" (Baltimore Gen. Publ.-1981) makes the errorneous statement that "their daughter Dolly, married James Madison, President of the United States; another daughter married John G. Jackson, from who descended Stonewall Jackson, the famous Confederate General." Dolly Madison was a Payne by birth, but not a daughter of Sanford and Abigail (Lay) Payne. As is noted below: "She always called herself Dolley, and by that name the New Garden Monthly Meeting of the Society of Friends, in Piedmont, North Carolina, recorded her birth to John and Mary Coles Payne, settlers from Virginia. In 1769 John Payne took his family back to his home colony, and in 1783 he moved them to Philadelphia, city of the Quakers. Dolley grew up in the strict discipline of the Society, but nothing muted her happy personality and her warm heart." From Clinton Dillard's PRESIDENTS-PIONEERS-PILGRIMS tree. He cites - Presidents Database: Genealogy of the US Presidents; Brian Tompsett, Computer Science Dept, University of Hull (England); based on book "The Presidents", pub. by Funk & Wagnall's; University of Hull, Hull, UK UK1HU6 7RX http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/presidents/ NOTE: WEBSITE: RootsWEB: U.S. Presidential Ancestor Tables; Contact; Gary Boyd Roberts ; New England Historic Geneological Society; from 'Ancestors of American Presidents', a 456-page book http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/presidents/prez3.htm NOTE: WEBSITE: BIOGRAPHY OF JAMES MADISON: http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/jm4.html In searching various internet biographies of Gen. Stonewall Jackson, I was not able to find evidence to support this either.
  Family ID	F1216	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Sources

  [S272] Payne, Brooke THE PAYNES OF VIRGINIA (Third Printing, C.J. Carrier Company, Harrisonburg, VA 1998).