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Alicia Payne

Female Abt 1767 - Yes, date unknown


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  • Name Alicia Payne  [1
    Birth Abt 1767 
    Gender Female 
    Death Yes, date unknown 
    Notes 
    • Said to have married William B. CARTER ca 1804, and they were the parents of James Payne CARTER.
    Person ID I4800  Strong Family Tree
    Last Modified 17 Aug 2014 

    Father Sanford Payne,   b. Abt 1730, Westmoreland County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 17 Dec 1792 (Age ~ 62 years) 
    Mother Abigail Lay,   b. Abt 1730   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Marriage
    • Kentucky Historical Society, "Genealogies of Kentucky Families: Vol. O-Y" (Baltimore Gen. Publ.-1981) makes the errorneous statement that "their daughter Dolly, married James Madison, President of the United States; another daughter married John G. Jackson, from who descended Stonewall Jackson, the famous Confederate General."

      Dolly Madison was a Payne by birth, but not a daughter of Sanford and Abigail (Lay) Payne. As is noted below:

      "She always called herself Dolley, and by that name the New Garden Monthly Meeting of the Society of Friends, in Piedmont, North Carolina, recorded her birth to John and Mary Coles Payne, settlers from Virginia. In 1769 John Payne took his family back to his home colony, and in 1783 he moved them to Philadelphia, city of the Quakers. Dolley grew up in the strict discipline of the Society, but nothing muted her happy personality and her warm heart."

      From Clinton Dillard's PRESIDENTS-PIONEERS-PILGRIMS tree. He cites

      - Presidents Database: Genealogy of the US Presidents; Brian Tompsett, Computer Science Dept, University of Hull (England); based on book "The Presidents", pub. by Funk & Wagnall's; University of Hull, Hull, UK UK1HU6 7RX http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/presidents/

      NOTE: WEBSITE: RootsWEB: U.S. Presidential Ancestor Tables; Contact; Gary Boyd Roberts ; New England Historic Geneological Society; from 'Ancestors of American Presidents', a 456-page book http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/presidents/prez3.htm

      NOTE: WEBSITE: BIOGRAPHY OF JAMES MADISON: http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/jm4.html

      In searching various internet biographies of Gen. Stonewall Jackson, I was not able to find evidence to support this either.
    Family ID F1216  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Sources 
    1. [S272] Payne, Brooke THE PAYNES OF VIRGINIA (Third Printing, C.J. Carrier Company, Harrisonburg, VA 1998).