Virgie Speights shows them as the parents of "Mrs. Winnie Williams of Hemphill, Mrs. Mollie Jordan of Orange, A.J. Harper, Mrs. Pauline Bishop of San Antonio, Mrs. Sally Tortories of Port Arthur, J. R. Harper of Vallejo, California; Charles A. Harper of Nederland, and Mrs. Emma Lou Hawthorne of Silsbee. There are 28 grandchildren and 27 great grandchildren." (Speights, Old Timers of Sabine County, Texas, p. 69).