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Family: Sanford Payne / Abigail Lay (F1216)



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  • Male
    Sanford Payne

    Birth  Abt 1730  Westmoreland County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Death  17 Dec 1792   
    Burial     
    Marriage     
    Father  William Payne | F1218 Group Sheet 
    Mother  Alicia Jones | F1218 Group Sheet 

    Female
    Abigail Lay

    Birth  Abt 1730   
    Death  Yes, date unknown   
    Burial     
    Father  Abraham Lay | F1219 Group Sheet 
    Mother  Sarah Grymes | F1219 Group Sheet 

    Male
    Benjamin Payne

    Birth  Abt 1761  Fairfax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Death  Abt 1828  Fauquier County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Burial     
    Spouse  Susannah Roussau | F2577 
    Marriage  3 Jan 1781  Fauquier County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Spouse  Helen Combs | F2578 
    Marriage  Bef 1796   

    Male
    George Payne

    Birth  Abt 1763  Fairfax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Death  Abt 1799  Fairfax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Burial     
    Spouse  Mary Coe | F158 
    Marriage  1783  Fairfax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location

    Female
    Sarah Payne

    Birth  Abt 1765   
    Death  Yes, date unknown   
    Burial     

    Female
    Alicia Payne

    Birth  Abt 1767   
    Death  Yes, date unknown   
    Burial     

    Female
    Ann Payne

    Birth  Abt 1769   
    Death  Yes, date unknown   
    Burial     

    Female
    Helen Payne

    Birth  Abt 1771   
    Death  Yes, date unknown   
    Burial     

    Male
    Sanford Payne, Jr.

    Birth  Bef 1775  Fairfax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Death    Fairfax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Burial     

    Female
    Jane Payne

    Birth  Aft 1775   
    Death  Yes, date unknown   
    Burial     

  • Notes  Married:
    • Kentucky Historical Society, "Genealogies of Kentucky Families: Vol. O-Y" (Baltimore Gen. Publ.-1981) makes the errorneous statement that "their daughter Dolly, married James Madison, President of the United States; another daughter married John G. Jackson, from who descended Stonewall Jackson, the famous Confederate General."

      Dolly Madison was a Payne by birth, but not a daughter of Sanford and Abigail (Lay) Payne. As is noted below:

      "She always called herself Dolley, and by that name the New Garden Monthly Meeting of the Society of Friends, in Piedmont, North Carolina, recorded her birth to John and Mary Coles Payne, settlers from Virginia. In 1769 John Payne took his family back to his home colony, and in 1783 he moved them to Philadelphia, city of the Quakers. Dolley grew up in the strict discipline of the Society, but nothing muted her happy personality and her warm heart."

      From Clinton Dillard's PRESIDENTS-PIONEERS-PILGRIMS tree. He cites

      - Presidents Database: Genealogy of the US Presidents; Brian Tompsett, Computer Science Dept, University of Hull (England); based on book "The Presidents", pub. by Funk & Wagnall's; University of Hull, Hull, UK UK1HU6 7RX http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/presidents/

      NOTE: WEBSITE: RootsWEB: U.S. Presidential Ancestor Tables; Contact; Gary Boyd Roberts ; New England Historic Geneological Society; from 'Ancestors of American Presidents', a 456-page book http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/presidents/prez3.htm

      NOTE: WEBSITE: BIOGRAPHY OF JAMES MADISON: http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/jm4.html

      In searching various internet biographies of Gen. Stonewall Jackson, I was not able to find evidence to support this either.