Abt 1911 -
Generation: 1
Generation: 2
2. | Thomas Joseph Kelly was born in Oct 1869 in New York County, New York; died after 1930. Notes:
(Research):
Census Listings:
1910 Federal census
New York New York 12 Wd Manhattan
ED 663 Eighth Avenue
Kelly, Thomas J Hd M w 39 M 9/yrs NY Ireland Ireland England Mason Building
Kelly, Mary V Wife F W 32 M 9 4/4 NY NY NY English
Kelly, Margaret W (sic) Dtr F W 8 S NY NY NY (s/b Violet Margaret Kelly)
Kelly, Helen Dtr F W 7 S NY NY NY
Kelly, Kathleen Dtr F W 5 S NY NY NY
Kelly, Thomas J Son M W 2 S NY NY NY
Sheenahan, John Brdr M W 65 S Eng. Ireland Eng. Ireland Eng. Ireland 1850 Lather
McKenna, Thomas H Brother in Law M W 30 S NY NY NY Mason Building
1920 Federal census
New York, New York, Manhattan, District 1457
Kelly, Thomas J age 47 NY Ireland Ireland Bricklayer Building
Kelly, Mary V age 46 NY NY NY
Kelly, Margaret V(iolet) age 18 NY NY NY Operator Telephone Company
Kelly, Helen age 16 NY NY NY Stenographer Office
Kelly, Kathleen age 14 NY NY NY
Kelly, Thomas age 11 NY NY NY
Kelly, Muriel age 9 NY NY NY
Kelly, Beatrice age 7 NY NY NY
Kelly, Edna age 5 NY NY NY
Kelly, Arnold age 3 9/12 NY NY NY
(They lived next door to 32 year old Daniel McKenna, born in Ireland. Could he have been a relative of Mary's?)
1930 Federal census:
New York, New York, Bronx, District 169
Kelly, Thomas J Head M W age 58 Rents $60 Married @28 NY NY NY Occupation: Mason Industry: Building
Kelly, Mary V Wife F W age 52 Married @22 NY NY NY
Kelly, Thomas J, Jr. Son M W age 21 NY NY NY Occupation: Mason Industry: Building
Kelly, Muriel V. Daug F W age 19 NY NY NY Occupation: Saleslady Industry: Dept Store
Kelly, Beatrice Daug F W age 17 NY NY NY Occupation: Saleslady Industry: Dept Store
Thomas married Mary Veronica McKenna about 1900. Mary was born in Apr 1877 in New York County, New York; died after 1930. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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3. | Mary Veronica McKenna was born in Apr 1877 in New York County, New York; died after 1930. Notes:
Eileen Bramhall emailed Melinda Strong on June 26, 2003 that: "Mary, my great grandmother is actually a MCKENNA. Her father (don't know his name) was a wealthy man who owned his own plumbing company and was the first to install INSIDE plumbing in NY. He didn't want Mary to marry Thomas Kelly, but she did anyway, obviously, or I guess I wouldn't be here. She came from the the Mckenna and Shanahan family.That's about all I know."
(Research):This MAY be Mary with her family in 1880 and 1900. It is possible that the family in 1880 and 1900 are differing families, based on the location of Margaret's location of birth in 1880 vs. 1900. Also, son Thomas, born March 1879, is not listed with the family in 1880.
Additionally, based on the fact that Mary Killy/Kelly is shown to have parents born in Germany in 1900, she may not be the same Mary McKenna that married Thomas J. Kelley around 1900/1901 in New York.
Edward MCCANA Self M Male W 21 NY Tin Smith IRE I
Margarite MCCANA Wife M Female W 25 NY [???] Keeping House --- ---
Mary MCCANA Dau S Female W 2 NY NY NY Source Information:
Census Place Brooklyn, Kings (Brooklyn), New York City-Greater, New York
Family History Library Film 1254845
NA Film Number T9-0845
Page Number 75D
1900 Census
New York, New York, Manhattan
Enumerated 12 Jun 1900
SD 1 ED 942 Sheet 7B
East 119 Street
135-25-142
McKenna, Margret Hd W F My 1856 44 Wd 6/2 New York Father born in Ireland/Waterford Mother born in Ireland Tipperary emigrated 1849/51 years in US
McKenna, Thomas A Son W M Ma 29 1879 21 S NY NY NY Plasterer
Killy, Thomas J Boarder W M Oct 26 1869 30 S NY Galway Galway Brick Mason
Killy, Mary Boarder W F Apr 5 1877 23 S NY S Germany Germany Laundress
Shannon, John Boarder W M Oct 9 1847 52 Ireland Tiperary Ireland Waterford Ireland Tiperary 1849 Lather
Flynn, Mary E Boarder W F S Nov 11 1878 NY NY NY
Thomas A. McKenna is listed as the son of Margaret McKenna, whereas Mary Killy is listed simply as a boarder. However, when Thomas McKenna registered for the draft during the First World War, circa 1917, he listed his nearest relative as Mary Kelly.
When Thomas Andrew McKenna registered for the draft during World War I, he was a resident of 2811 8 Ave NY, and his occupation was listed as Plaster, but he was not currently employed. His date of birth was shown as 29 Mar 1879, and his nearest relative was Mary Kelly of the same address. He was of Medium heigth and build, with blue eyes and black hair.
Additionally, the following birth Certificate can be found for Thomas McKenna:
Name Thomas Mckenna
Gender Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date 29 Mar 1879
Birthplace BIRTH CERTIFICATES, MANHATTAN, NEW YORK, NEW YORK
Death Date
Name Note
Race
Father's Name Andrew Mckenna
Father's Birthplace
Father's Age
Mother's Name Margaret Shannon Mckenna
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C71509-3
System Origin New_York-ODM
GS Film number 1322139
Reference ID
Citing this Record:
"New York, Births and Christenings, 1640-1962," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FD5P-CRS : accessed 09 Aug 2014), Thomas Mckenna, 29 Mar 1879; citing BIRTH CERTIFICATES, MANHATTAN, NEW YORK, NEW YORK, reference ; FHL microfilm 1322139.
It also appears that John Shannon, who was boarding with the family in 1910, is likely the brother of the widowed Margaret McKenna. The birth certificate, above, for Thomas McKenna shows his mother as Margaret Shannon McKenna. John Shannon's parents were born in the same places as Margaret's, and he immigrated to the US in the same year. Eileen Bramhall Hav? also stated that her great grandmother, Mary McKenna, came from the "Mckenna and Shanahan families." The 1905 New York State Census lists a family in Manhattan consisting of Margaret McKenna, age 49, Thos. McKenna, age 26, and John Shannahan, age 39. New York; State Population Census Schedules, 1905; Election District: A.D. 23 E.D. 25; City: Manhattan; County: New York; Page: 35.
A birth certificate for Andrew W. McKenna, born 17 Dec 1882 in Manhattan, New York, was also located, and also showed parents as Andrew McKenna and Margarat Shannon. He is not listed with the family in 1900 and likely died, as Margaret was shown in 1900 as having given birth to six children in total, with only two still living.
Children:
- Violet Margaret Kelly was born on 12 Jul 1901 in New York County, New York; died on 14 Sep 1994; was buried on 16 Sep 1994 in Long Island National Cemetery, Farmingdale, Suffolk County, New York.
- Helen Kelly was born about 1904 in New York County, New York.
- Kathleen Kelly was born about 1906 in New York County, New York.
- Thomas Joseph Kelly, Jr. was born about 1909 in New York County, New York.
- 1. Muriel Kelly was born about 1911 in New York County, New York.
- Beatrice Kelly was born about 1913 in New York County, New York.
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