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Louise "Lula" Payne

Female Abt 1862 - Abt 1942  (~ 80 years)


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  • Name Louise "Lula" Payne  [1, 2, 3
    Nickname Lula 
    Born Abt 1862  Shelby County, Missouri Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 3
    Gender Female 
    Died Abt 1942 
    Buried Y  [4, 5
    Notes 
    • Not on Brooke Payne's list of the children of Thomas Hamilton Payne and Martha Jane Marshall.

      1880 - An "L. C. Payne" was recorded living with her married brother, Samuel Marshall Payne, in Cooke Co., Texas on 7 June 1880 where she was listed as [teaching school] at the age of 19.

      In this census reference to L. C. Payne the age is unclear, and could have been 17 years.

      1884 - On her marriage certificate in Montague County Courthouse Marriage Book B, page 183, her name is spelled Lula Payne. The ceremony was conducted by W. E. Wilson, Ordained Minister.

      In biography of her brother William Henry Harrison Payne, she is listed as "Lula, wife of Allison Scott, of Duncan."In another biography, this one of her brother-in-law, John O'Neill, she was referenced as "Lulu, wife of Allison Scott, a retired railroad man at Fort Worth, Texas."

      In his Personal Journal, Lewis Adair Payne wrote on March 21, 1936: "Martha [Scott], Marie [Scott], and Florence [Scott] came back out for an hour or so, I then went with them to Aunt Hatties [Payne nee Brown] to get Aunt Lou [Scott nee Payne]. Then to Duncan. Dinner at Bessies. They home and I to the airport."
    • (Research):

      Census Information:

      1900 Census
      Indian Territory, Picken Chicasaw, T1 NR 5W
      Enumerated 25 Jun 1900 Wm F. McIntyre
      SD 73 (lined through) ED 163 Sheet 13A Stamped 289
      211-214
      Payne, Walter Hd W M March 1867 33 M 5 Mo Ky Ky Farmer
      Payne, Gertrude Wf W F Aug 1876 23 M 5 3/2 Tx Mo Mo
      Payne, Emma Blanche Dtr W F Nov 1895 4 S Chickasaw Nation Mo Tx
      Payne, Harry Carrol Son W M Feb 1897 3 S Ok Mo Tx
      Payne, Mary Ethel Dtr W F Sep 1899 8/12 S Ok Mo Tx
      Payne, Martha J Mother W F March 1826 74 Wd 1/1 Ky Va Va
      212-215
      Payne, Thomas B Hd W M Nov 1864 35 M2 Mo Ky Ky Farmer
      Payne, Lilly Wf W F Nov 1878 22 M 2 2/2 Tx MO MO
      Payne, Thomas H Son W M March 1893 7 S Chickasaw Nation Mo Tx
      Payne, Marvin C Son W M Sept 1899 2/12 S Chickasaw Nation Mo Tx
      213-216
      James, Sarah Hd W F 1858 42 Wd 5/3 Mo Mo Mo Farmer
      James Edna Dtr W F 1883 17 S Tx Mo Mo
      James, Julia Dtr W F 1884 15 S Tx Mo Mo
      James, Jessie Son W M 1893 6 S Chickasaw Nation Mo Mo
      214-217
      Scott, Alisie Hd W M Dec 1853 46 m 16 Indiana Indiana Ill Farmer
      Scott, Lula Wf W F March 1862 38 M 16 6/6 Mo Ky Ky
      Scott, Claude Son W M Jan 1886 14 S Tx Ind Mo
      Scott, Orville Son W M May 1887 12 S Tx Ind Mo
      Soctt, Florence Dtr W F July 1889 10 S Tx Ind Mo
      Scott, Lindsey Son W M Oct 1890 9 S Tx Ind Mo
      Scott, Martha Dtr W F Oct 1894 5 S Tx Ind Mo
      Scott, Irene Dtr W F Oct 1897 2 S Ok Ind Mo

      1910 Census
      Texas, Tarrant County, Fort Worth
      Enumerated 19 Apr 1910
      SD 12 ED 115 Sheet 8A Stamped 95
      818-162-147
      Scott, Allison Hd M W 56 M1 20 Indiana Tn Indiana Conductor Railroad
      Scott, L.O. Wf F W 69 M1 20 8/7 Mo Ky Ky
      Scott, H.C. Son M W 24 S Tx Ind Mo Farming
      Scott, Orville Son M W 22 S Tx Ind Mo Driver Express Co
      Scott, L.A. Son M W 19 S Tx Ind MO Car Cleaner Railroad
      Scott, Florence Dtr F W 20 S Tx Ind Mo Dressmaker Dry Goods Store
      Scott, Martha Dtr F W 15 S Tx Ind MO
      Scott, Irene Dtr F W 11 S Ok Ind Mo
      Scott, Marie Dtr F W 8 S Ok Ind Mo
    Person ID I5664  Strong Family Tree
    Last Modified 17 Aug 2014 

    Father Thomas Hamilton Payne,   b. 27 Jan 1819, Bourbon County, Kentucky Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 14 Sep 1884, Montague, Montague County, Texas Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 65 years) 
    Mother Martha Jane Marshall,   b. 27 Mar 1826, Hardinsburg, Breckinridge County, Kentucky Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Oct 1900, Oklahoma Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years) 
    Married 5 Aug 1843  Clark County, Missouri Find all individuals with events at this location  [6, 7
    • Thomas Hamilton Payne and Martha J(ane) Marshall were married by Rev. Minor Ford a Minister of the Gospel in Clark County, Missouri on 5 August 1843.  Sarah Ann Payne (then aged 63 and wife of Judge John Loomis Smith) signed an affadavit in 1889 stating that having been personally acquanted with the two, she had been present at the marriage of her brother Thomas Payne to Martha Jane Marshall by the Rev. Ford in August of 1843.   [Thomas H. Payne Pension Application #494585--Army of the United States Certificate of Disability]

      Following the marriage, the young couple were farming and living next door to Martha's parents in Lewis County, Missouri.
    Documents
    Payne, Thomas H. Proof of Heirship Chickasaw Tribe 1920 PG 1 0f 6
    Payne, Thomas H. Proof of Heirship Chickasaw Tribe 1920 PG 1 0f 6
    This important genealogical document is a six page proof of heirship, and was filed in Stephens County, Oklahoma on October 18, 1920 by Thomas Hamilton Payne, and outlines in detail his father's family. Tom lists his father's parents, brothers and sisters, first and second wife, and other children. Tom's father, Thomas Bunker Payne, was an enrollee in the Chickasaw Nation by marriage; and this was filed to prove Thomas Hamilton's Payne eligibility to enroll in the Chickasaw Nation based on his father's initial application.
    Payne, Thomas H. Proof of Heirship Chickasaw Tribe 1920 PG 2 0f 6
    Payne, Thomas H. Proof of Heirship Chickasaw Tribe 1920 PG 2 0f 6
    Payne, Thomas H. Proof of Heirship Chickasaw Tribe 1920 PG 3 0f 6
    Payne, Thomas H. Proof of Heirship Chickasaw Tribe 1920 PG 3 0f 6
    Payne, Thomas H. Proof of Heirship Chickasaw Tribe 1920 PG 4 0f 6
    Payne, Thomas H. Proof of Heirship Chickasaw Tribe 1920 PG 4 0f 6
    Payne, Thomas H. Proof of Heirship Chickasaw Tribe 1920 PG 5 0f 6
    Payne, Thomas H. Proof of Heirship Chickasaw Tribe 1920 PG 5 0f 6
    Payne, Thomas H. Proof of Heirship Chickasaw Tribe 1920 PG 6 0f 6
    Payne, Thomas H. Proof of Heirship Chickasaw Tribe 1920 PG 6 0f 6
    Family ID F155  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Allison Scott,   b. Dec 1853, Indiana Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married 30 Nov 1884  Montague, Montague County, Texas Find all individuals with events at this location  [5, 8
    Children 
     1. H. Claude Scott,   b. Jan 1886, Texas Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1955  (Age ~ 68 years)
     2. Orville Scott,   b. May 1887, Texas Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     3. Florence Scott,   b. Jul 1889, Texas Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Nov 1951, Fort Worth, Tarrant County, Texas Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 62 years)
     4. Lindsey A. Scott,   b. Oct 1890, Texas Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     5. Martha Scott,   b. Oct 1894, Texas Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     6. Irene Scott,   b. Oct 1894, Indiana Territory Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     7. Marie Scott,   b. Abt 1902, Indian Territory Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1955  (Age ~ 53 years)
    Last Modified 9 Dec 2006 
    Family ID F2954  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - Abt 1862 - Shelby County, Missouri Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 30 Nov 1884 - Montague, Montague County, Texas Link to Google Earth
     = Link to Google Earth 

  • Photos
    PAYNE FAMILY REUNION - 1927
Home of Aunt Annie (O'Neill) Sparks - 
303 Hickory, Duncan, Oklahoma
    PAYNE FAMILY REUNION - 1927 Home of Aunt Annie (O'Neill) Sparks - 303 Hickory, Duncan, Oklahoma
    This 1927 Payne Reunion photo is of 41 people. On September 21-23, 1999, Charles R. Strong along with his mother, Anna Laura "Rooney" (Payne) Strong and two aunts – Dora Fay (Payne) Pierce-Yeager and Lois Marie (Payne) Hanna reviewed the picture. The late Lewis Adair Payne had already prepared his own list identifying all persons. Both list had errors. Mary Gwendolyn “Marilynn” (Payne) Wade of Marlow later helped Charles Strong reconcile the two lists and correct some errors. One reason for differences in the two lists was due to the existence of two pictures, which were almost, but not exactly, identical. This photo slightly differs from Aunt Annie’s version.

    . NOTE-The list below is numbered left to right - top to bottom. The first number is sequential in total, and the
    second number is position within the row.

    TOP ROW
    1 1 Paul Puckett, Boy living with Hattie (Brown) Payne.
    2 2 Mabel Lyles
    3 3 Baby is Mary Gwendolyn “Marilynn” (Payne) Wade.
    4 4 Joseph Ray “Jodey” Payne Jr.
    5 5 Virginia (Payne) Hardin - d. of Walter W., # 22 below
    6 6 Vera (Payne) Roberts-Young, -d. of Walter W. #22 and mother of #30 below
    7 7 Mary Ethyl (Payne) Benton-Madison-Parker. d. of W. W. # 22
    8 8 Claude Chadwick Payne
    9 9 Ruth Hazel Witherspoon-d. of Mable (Gentry) Witherspoon, d. of John Price Gentry.
    10 10 Florence Scott d. of # 23 Lou Payne Scott & niece of W.W. Payne
    11 11 Marvin Walter Payne Sr. Father of #'s 8, 28, 37, & 38
    12 12 Gracie (Gentry) Payne Wife of # 11 Marvin W. Payne
    13 13 Rene Gentry - s. of Frank Melton and Ada (Jones) Gentry, and nephew of Gracie #12
    14 14 Edna (Surginer) Payne, First wife of John Earl (Dukie) Payne
    15 15 John Earl, (Dukie) Payne
    16 16 Caroline "Carrie" (Cover) Payne
    17 17 Harry Carl Payne,Sr.

    MIDDLE ROW
    18 1 William "Billy" West - Grandson of # 23, Louise (Payne) Scott
    19 2 Joseph Ray Payne, s. of Wm. Henry H. Payne
    20 3 C. Frank Payne, Brother to # 11, Marvin W. Payne Sr.
    21 4 Annie (O'Neill) Sparks, Wife of #26
    22 5 Walter Winkle Payne
    23 6 Louise "Lula" (Payne) Scott
    24 7 Hattie (Brown) Payne
    25 8 Orville Scott
    26 9 James Rufus Sparks f. of # 33, Mary Pat (Sparks) Kubic

    BOTTOM ROW
    27 1 Anna Laura "Rooney" (Payne) Strong
    28 2 Mary Olive (Payne) Thompson
    29 3 Mary Ethyl (Benton) Jones
    30 4 Clifford "Bosco" Roberts
    31 5 Virginia Payne, sister to # 4 above, and d. of Joseph R. & g.d. Wm. H. H. Payne ?
    32 6 Dora Fay (Payne) Pierce - Yeager
    33 7 Mary Pat (Sparks) Kubik
    34 8 Francis Hardin, d. of Virginia Payne Hardin, # 5 above, (in lap of Mary Pat)
    35 9 Thelma (Gentry) Callaway - d. of Edgar J. Gentry & g.d. of Wm. M. Gentry
    36 10 Lois Marie (Payne) Hanna
    37 11 Lewis Adair Payne
    38 12 Marvin Walter "Snort" Payne Jr. in Lewis' lap.
    39 13 Willie Lee "Billy" Payne ?
    40 14 Paul James Payne
    41 15 Jean Bruce (Benton) Turner

  • Sources 
    1. [S308] 1880 United States Federal Census [Ancestry.com database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005., (1880 U.S. Census Index provided by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints © Copyright 1999 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. All use is subject to the limited use license and other terms and conditions applicable to this site. Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Tenth Census of the United States, 1880. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1880. T9, 1,454 rolls. This database is an index to 50 million individuals enumerated in the 1880 United States Federal Census. Census takers recorded many details including each person's name, address, occupation, relationship to the head of household, race, sex, age at last birthday, marital status, place of birth, parents’ place of birth. Additionally, the names of those listed on the population schedule are linked to actual images of the 1880 Federal Census.).

    2. [S128] Hill, Luther HISTORY OF THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA Vol. 2 (New York: Lewis Publishing, 1908), pages 250-251.

    3. [S207] 1870 United States Federal Census [Ancestry.com database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2003., (United States. Ninth Census of the United States, 1870. Washington, D.C. National Archives and Records Administration. M593, RG29, 1,761 rolls. Minnesota. Minnesota Census Schedules for 1870. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. T132, RG29, 13 rolls. This database is an index to individuals enumerated in the 1870 United States Federal Census, the Ninth Census of the United States. Census takers recorded many details including each person's name, age at last birthday, sex, color; birthplace, occupation, and more. No relationships were shown between members of a household. Additionally, the names of those listed on the population schedule are linked to actual images of the 1870 Federal Census.), Missouri, Shelby County, Tiger Fork Twp,P O Nelsonville Enumerated 29 July 1870 Page 20 144-144 (Reliability: 3).

    4. [S277] Payne, Thomas H. Proof of Heirship. Subscribed and sworn on 17th April 1917; filed with County Clerk. Book 108, page 502., Courtesy of Kenneth Harvey For the purpose of proving citizenship in the Chickasha Native American Indian TribeRecorded in Book 108, page 502.

    5. [S124] Harvey, Kenneth C--Family Member; Gedcom, Printed Descendants Reports of Payne and Gentry Families, Correspondence.

    6. [S250] Ancestral File, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints [database online], (Ancestral File (found at www.familysearch.org) is a collection of genealogical information taken from Pedigree Charts and Family Group Records submitted to the Family History Department since 1978. The information has not been verified against any official records. Since the information in Ancestral File is contributed, it is the responsibility of those who use the file to verify its accuracy.).

    7. [S466] Wilham, Kathleen Genealogical Research and Publishing (2 Sharon Way, Shelbina MO 63468).

    8. [S421] Texas, Montague County Courthouse Marriage Books, Courtesy of Kenneth Harvey.