Tommy Ray Fullen

Tommie married Edna Odell Vestal before 1938. Edna was born on 10 Jan 1920 in San Augustine County, Texas; died on 8 Sep 1976 in Houston, Harris County, Texas; was buried in Runnels Cemetery, San Augustine County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Name: Edna Odell Fullen
Death Date: 08 Sep 1976
Death Place: Houston, Harris, Texas, United States
Gender: Female
Race: White
Death Age: 56 years
Estimated Birth Date:
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1920
Birthplace: San Augustine Texas
Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Heber Vestal
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Minnie Bryant
Mother's Birthplace:
Occupation:
Place of Residence:
Cemetery:
Burial Place:
Burial Date:
Additional Relatives:
Film Number: 2243978
Digital Film Number: 4005496
Image Number: 02212
Reference Number: 68239
Collection: Texas Deaths, 1890-1976

Notes:

His birth information, as shown in the scan of BIRTHS recorded in the Fullen bible, was as follows:

Jack 1876

The information on his draft registration for World War I shows that his full name was Jack John Fullen, and that his date of birth was February 22, 1874. He registered on September 12, 1918, and was shown as being married to Mrs. Nettie Fullen, and as a farmer in Freestone, Navarro County, Texas. His death certificate showed his DOB as February 22, 1875, and indicated his parents were Jim Fullen and Elizabeth Parker. He was listed a Farmer. The informant was Mrs. Gladys Atteberry, presumably his daughter.

Ameth Carmichael shows that Jack FULLEN married (1) Nettie COOPER and that he married (2) Mary WATKINS.

(Research):
Census Information:

1910 Federal Census Texas, San Augustine, 5 J-Pct, District 142
183-184
FULLEN, Jack J. Head M w 35 M1 14 Texas US US Farmer
FULLEN, Nettie Wife F W 29 M1 14 6/6 Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Cora Dtr F W 13 S Tx Tx Tx Farm Laborer
FULLEN, Bula Dtr F W 11 S Tx Tx Tx Farm Laborer
FULLEN, Allen Son M W 8 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Opal Son M W 5 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Norman Son M W 4 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Hoyt Son M W 1 5/12 S Tx Tx Tx

1920 Federal Census Texas, Navarro, JP 6, ED 166
267-272
FULLEN, J J Hd M W 44 M TX TX Mississippi Farmer
FULLEN, Willie J Wife F W 38 M TX TX TX
FULLEN, Allen Son M W 18 S TX TX TX Farm Laborer
FULLEN, Opal Son* F W 16 S Tx Tx Tx Farm Laborer
FULLEN, Norman Son M W 13 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Hoyt Son M W 9 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Gladys Dtr F W 6 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Arlis Dillon Son M W 4 1/12 S Tx Tx Tx
LUCAS, Curtis Grandson M W 3/12 Tx Tx Tx

*Daughter was written first, and then SON was written over the top of daughter

1930 Federal Census Texas, Harris County, Houston, District 6 3302 North Main
#318-318
FULLEN, Jack J Head R $3000 M W 55 M 21 Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Nettie Wife F W 49 M 16 Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Norman Son M W 24 S Tx Tx Tx Laborer Sawmill
FULLEN, Hoyt Son M W 21 S Tx Tx Tx Laborer Lumbermill
FULLEN, Gladys Dtr F W 17 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Dillion Son M W 16 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Tommy Son M W 10 Tx Tx Tx

Ameth Carmicheal (Amy Fullen) notes that he married second a Mary WATKINS. I don't think this is correct. The Jack Fullen listed below was born circa 1859. The Jack Fullen listed in the census extracts above was born ca 1876. This is a significant age difference. Other sources show that the Jack Fullen below was actually Harrom Jackson Fullen, born in Comanche County (according to his family), or Tarrant County (according to his death certificate). Harrom Jackson Fullen and Mary Watkins were married ca 1874 or 1875 in Comanche or Coleman County, Texas.


J. M. WATKINS Self M Male W 25 MO Laborer KY IN
Mahala WATKINS Wife M Female W 18 TX Keeping House SC SC
Jack FULLEN BroL M Male W 21 TX Laborer AR MO
Mary L. FULLEN Sister M Female W 23 MO Keeping Hosue KY IN
Lizzie FULLEN Niece S Female W 4 TX --- -
J. T. MCINNIS Other S Male W 26 MS Farmer MS MS Source Information:
Census Place Precinct 4, Llano, Texas
Family History Library Film 1255317
NA Film Number T9-1317
Page Number 498B

(Medical):See attached sources.

James married Willie Genettis "Nettie" Ruth Cooper about 1896. Willie (daughter of John M. Cooper and Anna M. Pounds) was born about 1881 in Texas; died on 10 Oct 1933 in San Augustine County, Texas; was buried in Runnels Cemetery, San Augustine County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Married:
Marriage Information, as shown in the scan of the UNIONS page of the Fullen's Family Bible, was shown as follows:

Jack and Nettie 1899

Notes:

James C is listed as a two year old at the time of the 1850 Sabine County census, along with this two older brothers and widowed mother. However, since neither James nor his mother can be located on any subsequent Sabine County census records, it had been long assumed that he probably died young.

Amy Fullen of Dallas, however, states that the James DID survive and grow into adulthood. In March, 2005, in response to a query from Melinda Strong, she emailed the following explanation: "According to the family bible...Rebecca or "Becky" as they called her did die in 1852, now family lore says that she did marry Solomon but that he was a mean man and she died soon after marrying him. Family lore meaning aunt Doris's husband, he is the only old timer left with us, he just turned 101 last month. Well he says that James C moved in with his uncle James and his wife as he was the youngest, this I guess would have been the brother of either James W or Rebecca, he is not sure whose brother he was, just that James lived with them and worked on their farm until he married....[Aunt Doris's husband] also has all the genealogy work that his wife did on the family and he is the source of the family bible as well." She further indicated that "I was given the bible upon...Doris's death, it seems that no one else in the family collects these as I do. That was some 15 years ago I received her treasure trove. It did not say anything about who they were, where they might be buried, or what towns they lived in, just the names and dates."

Amy had scans of the "Birth, Marriages & Burials" pages from the bible posted on her website, however the title page or publication information from the bible were note posted, so it is currently not known exactly when these names and dates were recorded, and by whom. This could account for some of the seeming discrepencies of the Bible notes with other records. Amy's website is privatized, but a password can be obtained from the site administrator. The bible scans are also reproduced in Amy's book, the "The Fullen and Post Family Genealogy Book" by Ameth Carmicheal. This is Amy Fullen's pen name. The book can be purchased from at www.lulu.com .

In early 2006, Amy posted to her website that "James C Fullen was taken in by Powell W. Fullen and his wife Sarah. This couple is seen nearby Becky and her sons on the 1850 census but on all other census records they are listed as Fuller's." It does appear, from examining the census microfilm, that Powell's last name could have been FULLEN. He is indexed by Ancestry.com as Powell FURLER, and in shown in Schuluter and Toole's 1850 census transcription as Powell FULLER. James could have lived with Powell Fullen after his Mother died in 1852. However, he is not listed with Powell and Sarah on the 1860 San Augustine County Census, or on any subsequent census records.

His birth information, as shown in the scan of BIRTHS recorded in the Fullen Bible, was as follows:

J C Fullen 1848

His marriage information, also listed under UNIONS in the Bible, is shows as follows:

JC & Catherine 1868

(Research):Census Information:

Unable to locate James of his family on the 1860, 1870 or 1
880 census enumerations. PLEASE EMAIL IF YOU HAVE FOUND JAMES FULLEN ON ANY OF THE ABOVE CENSUS ENUMERATIONS.

James married Catherine Elizabeth Parker on 29 Sep 1870 in Pointe Coupee Parish, Louisiana. Catherine was born between 1843 and 1849 in Alabama; died about 1931 in Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Her birth information, as shown in the scan of BIRTHS recorded in the Fullen bible, was as follows:

Catherine Fullen 1849

She also appears to indicate that her father died ca 1868, as the following listing is one of the first listings under BURIALS in her family Bible: Daddy Parker 1868. Later, a listing is shown for Moma Parker 1889 Aged 61 years

Her own burial information, the last listing in the burial section of her bible, was shown as:

Catherine "Momma" Fullen, 1929, 80 years

It appears that she actually died after 1930, as she was living with her daughter and son-in-law, Emily Elizabeth and Vernon BYERLY, at the time of the 1930 census. Her last name was shown as STROYON, so it appears she remarried after the death of of James FULLEN.

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Married:
Amy Fullen also lists them as the parents of a Frank Fullen, born ca. 1882.

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(Research):
Census Listings:

1880 Census:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
John COOPER Self M Male W 23 GA Farming GA GA
Anna COOPER Wife M Female W 18 GA Keeping Hou
William COOPER Son S Male W 11M GA GA GA
Harriet HARRIS Other W Female B 85 GA GA GA
Anderson STROZIER Other S Male B 17 GA Laborer GA GA Source Information:
Census Place District 1213, Meriwether, Georgia
Family History Library Film 1254157
NA Film Number T9-0157
Page Number 286D

1900 Census
Not located

1910 Census
Not located

John married Anna M. Pounds. Anna was born in Aug 1861 in Georgia; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Don and Amy Fullen show that she died in California ca 1928, however she can be found living with her daughter Julia and son-in-law, James Marion Fullen, at the time of the 1930 Hopkins County, Texas Census.

(Research):
Census Listings:

1930 Hopkins County, TEXAS Census
Fullen, Marion 48 Tx Tx Al Farmer
Fullen, Julia 38 Ar Ga Al
Fullen, Clifton 19 Ok Tx Ar
Fullen, Odell 13 Tx Tx Ar
Fullen, Adell 13 Tx Tx Ar
Fullen, Otto 10 Tx Tx Ar
Fullen, Elizabeth 9 Tx Tx Ar
Fullen, Travis 4 Tx Tx Ar
Fullen Troy 3/12 Tx Tx Ar
Cooper, Anna 68 Al