Hoyt Houston Fullen

Notes:

From the SSDI:

HOYT FULLEN Oct 1908 May 1979 77703 (Beaumont, Jefferson, TX) 77710 (Beaumont, Jefferson, TX) 452-20-5350 Texas

From the Texas Death Index:

Fullen Hoyt Houston 05-01-1979 JEFFERSON M

Family/Spouse: Gracie Irma Nixon. Gracie was born on 3 Sep 1914 in Broaddus, San Augustine County, Texas; died on 19 Dec 1969 in Beaumont, Jefferson County, Texas; was buried in Runnels Cemetery, San Augustine County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

His birth information, as shown in the scan of BIRTHS recorded in the Fullen bible, was as follows:

Jack 1876

The information on his draft registration for World War I shows that his full name was Jack John Fullen, and that his date of birth was February 22, 1874. He registered on September 12, 1918, and was shown as being married to Mrs. Nettie Fullen, and as a farmer in Freestone, Navarro County, Texas. His death certificate showed his DOB as February 22, 1875, and indicated his parents were Jim Fullen and Elizabeth Parker. He was listed a Farmer. The informant was Mrs. Gladys Atteberry, presumably his daughter.

Ameth Carmichael shows that Jack FULLEN married (1) Nettie COOPER and that he married (2) Mary WATKINS.

(Research):
Census Information:

1910 Federal Census Texas, San Augustine, 5 J-Pct, District 142
183-184
FULLEN, Jack J. Head M w 35 M1 14 Texas US US Farmer
FULLEN, Nettie Wife F W 29 M1 14 6/6 Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Cora Dtr F W 13 S Tx Tx Tx Farm Laborer
FULLEN, Bula Dtr F W 11 S Tx Tx Tx Farm Laborer
FULLEN, Allen Son M W 8 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Opal Son M W 5 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Norman Son M W 4 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Hoyt Son M W 1 5/12 S Tx Tx Tx

1920 Federal Census Texas, Navarro, JP 6, ED 166
267-272
FULLEN, J J Hd M W 44 M TX TX Mississippi Farmer
FULLEN, Willie J Wife F W 38 M TX TX TX
FULLEN, Allen Son M W 18 S TX TX TX Farm Laborer
FULLEN, Opal Son* F W 16 S Tx Tx Tx Farm Laborer
FULLEN, Norman Son M W 13 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Hoyt Son M W 9 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Gladys Dtr F W 6 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Arlis Dillon Son M W 4 1/12 S Tx Tx Tx
LUCAS, Curtis Grandson M W 3/12 Tx Tx Tx

*Daughter was written first, and then SON was written over the top of daughter

1930 Federal Census Texas, Harris County, Houston, District 6 3302 North Main
#318-318
FULLEN, Jack J Head R $3000 M W 55 M 21 Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Nettie Wife F W 49 M 16 Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Norman Son M W 24 S Tx Tx Tx Laborer Sawmill
FULLEN, Hoyt Son M W 21 S Tx Tx Tx Laborer Lumbermill
FULLEN, Gladys Dtr F W 17 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Dillion Son M W 16 S Tx Tx Tx
FULLEN, Tommy Son M W 10 Tx Tx Tx

Ameth Carmicheal (Amy Fullen) notes that he married second a Mary WATKINS. I don't think this is correct. The Jack Fullen listed below was born circa 1859. The Jack Fullen listed in the census extracts above was born ca 1876. This is a significant age difference. Other sources show that the Jack Fullen below was actually Harrom Jackson Fullen, born in Comanche County (according to his family), or Tarrant County (according to his death certificate). Harrom Jackson Fullen and Mary Watkins were married ca 1874 or 1875 in Comanche or Coleman County, Texas.


J. M. WATKINS Self M Male W 25 MO Laborer KY IN
Mahala WATKINS Wife M Female W 18 TX Keeping House SC SC
Jack FULLEN BroL M Male W 21 TX Laborer AR MO
Mary L. FULLEN Sister M Female W 23 MO Keeping Hosue KY IN
Lizzie FULLEN Niece S Female W 4 TX --- -
J. T. MCINNIS Other S Male W 26 MS Farmer MS MS Source Information:
Census Place Precinct 4, Llano, Texas
Family History Library Film 1255317
NA Film Number T9-1317
Page Number 498B

(Medical):See attached sources.

James married Willie Genettis "Nettie" Ruth Cooper about 1896. Willie (daughter of John M. Cooper and Anna M. Pounds) was born about 1881 in Texas; died on 10 Oct 1933 in San Augustine County, Texas; was buried in Runnels Cemetery, San Augustine County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Married:
Marriage Information, as shown in the scan of the UNIONS page of the Fullen's Family Bible, was shown as follows:

Jack and Nettie 1899

Notes:

James C is listed as a two year old at the time of the 1850 Sabine County census, along with this two older brothers and widowed mother. However, since neither James nor his mother can be located on any subsequent Sabine County census records, it had been long assumed that he probably died young.

Amy Fullen of Dallas, however, states that the James DID survive and grow into adulthood. In March, 2005, in response to a query from Melinda Strong, she emailed the following explanation: "According to the family bible...Rebecca or "Becky" as they called her did die in 1852, now family lore says that she did marry Solomon but that he was a mean man and she died soon after marrying him. Family lore meaning aunt Doris's husband, he is the only old timer left with us, he just turned 101 last month. Well he says that James C moved in with his uncle James and his wife as he was the youngest, this I guess would have been the brother of either James W or Rebecca, he is not sure whose brother he was, just that James lived with them and worked on their farm until he married....[Aunt Doris's husband] also has all the genealogy work that his wife did on the family and he is the source of the family bible as well." She further indicated that "I was given the bible upon...Doris's death, it seems that no one else in the family collects these as I do. That was some 15 years ago I received her treasure trove. It did not say anything about who they were, where they might be buried, or what towns they lived in, just the names and dates."

Amy had scans of the "Birth, Marriages & Burials" pages from the bible posted on her website, however the title page or publication information from the bible were note posted, so it is currently not known exactly when these names and dates were recorded, and by whom. This could account for some of the seeming discrepencies of the Bible notes with other records. Amy's website is privatized, but a password can be obtained from the site administrator. The bible scans are also reproduced in Amy's book, the "The Fullen and Post Family Genealogy Book" by Ameth Carmicheal. This is Amy Fullen's pen name. The book can be purchased from at www.lulu.com .

In early 2006, Amy posted to her website that "James C Fullen was taken in by Powell W. Fullen and his wife Sarah. This couple is seen nearby Becky and her sons on the 1850 census but on all other census records they are listed as Fuller's." It does appear, from examining the census microfilm, that Powell's last name could have been FULLEN. He is indexed by Ancestry.com as Powell FURLER, and in shown in Schuluter and Toole's 1850 census transcription as Powell FULLER. James could have lived with Powell Fullen after his Mother died in 1852. However, he is not listed with Powell and Sarah on the 1860 San Augustine County Census, or on any subsequent census records.

His birth information, as shown in the scan of BIRTHS recorded in the Fullen Bible, was as follows:

J C Fullen 1848

His marriage information, also listed under UNIONS in the Bible, is shows as follows:

JC & Catherine 1868

(Research):Census Information:

Unable to locate James of his family on the 1860, 1870 or 1
880 census enumerations. PLEASE EMAIL IF YOU HAVE FOUND JAMES FULLEN ON ANY OF THE ABOVE CENSUS ENUMERATIONS.

James married Catherine Elizabeth Parker on 29 Sep 1870 in Pointe Coupee Parish, Louisiana. Catherine was born between 1843 and 1849 in Alabama; died about 1931 in Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Her birth information, as shown in the scan of BIRTHS recorded in the Fullen bible, was as follows:

Catherine Fullen 1849

She also appears to indicate that her father died ca 1868, as the following listing is one of the first listings under BURIALS in her family Bible: Daddy Parker 1868. Later, a listing is shown for Moma Parker 1889 Aged 61 years

Her own burial information, the last listing in the burial section of her bible, was shown as:

Catherine "Momma" Fullen, 1929, 80 years

It appears that she actually died after 1930, as she was living with her daughter and son-in-law, Emily Elizabeth and Vernon BYERLY, at the time of the 1930 census. Her last name was shown as STROYON, so it appears she remarried after the death of of James FULLEN.

Notes:

Married:
Amy Fullen also lists them as the parents of a Frank Fullen, born ca. 1882.

Notes:

(Research):
Census Listings:

1880 Census:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
John COOPER Self M Male W 23 GA Farming GA GA
Anna COOPER Wife M Female W 18 GA Keeping Hou
William COOPER Son S Male W 11M GA GA GA
Harriet HARRIS Other W Female B 85 GA GA GA
Anderson STROZIER Other S Male B 17 GA Laborer GA GA Source Information:
Census Place District 1213, Meriwether, Georgia
Family History Library Film 1254157
NA Film Number T9-0157
Page Number 286D

1900 Census
Not located

1910 Census
Not located

John married Anna M. Pounds. Anna was born in Aug 1861 in Georgia; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Don and Amy Fullen show that she died in California ca 1928, however she can be found living with her daughter Julia and son-in-law, James Marion Fullen, at the time of the 1930 Hopkins County, Texas Census.

(Research):
Census Listings:

1930 Hopkins County, TEXAS Census
Fullen, Marion 48 Tx Tx Al Farmer
Fullen, Julia 38 Ar Ga Al
Fullen, Clifton 19 Ok Tx Ar
Fullen, Odell 13 Tx Tx Ar
Fullen, Adell 13 Tx Tx Ar
Fullen, Otto 10 Tx Tx Ar
Fullen, Elizabeth 9 Tx Tx Ar
Fullen, Travis 4 Tx Tx Ar
Fullen Troy 3/12 Tx Tx Ar
Cooper, Anna 68 Al

Notes:

Little is known about James C. Fullen, even his exact name is uncertain. W. F. Fullen, a grandson, reported that both his father AND his grandfather were named JOHN W. FULLEN. He reported this in 1933 however, some 80 years after his grandfather's death, when he was completing his father's death certificate. The name John is inconsistent with several published histories of Sabine County, all of which list the progenitor of the Fullen family of Sabine County as James W. Fullen. No sources are cited.

In Gifford White's book, FIRST SETTLERS OF SABINE COUNTY, TEXAS, there is a James C. Fuller (sic) listed as receiving 320 acres of land on 4 Mar 1844. The Texas archives show that this land grant was actually made to a James C. Fullen. Due to both the time frame and the relative rarity of the last name Fullen, it is assumed that James C. was the husband of Rebecca, and father of William and John.

CHEROKEE County Texas

Survey - Person or Concern bearing the land certificate at time survey filed. Block - Block number. Grantee - Person or Concern to whom the land was actually awarded. Leag - League Flag. L = 4,428 acres, B = League + Labor. Labor = 177 acres. Section - Section Number Abs - Number of the Abstract on file at county courthouse and at the
Texas General land Office in Austin.

Survey Blk Grantee Leag Section Abs
JAMES C FULLEN J. FULLEN 724 281


What is known is that Mr. Fullen and his 18 year old wife, Rebecca, moved to the Republic of Texas sometime before the birth of their son William around 1844. They had two more sons over the next three years, and he probably died sometime around or after 1848, when his youngest son was born. He is listed on neither the 1850 Sabine County census, nor is his death reported on the 1850 Mortality Schedule. In the Family Bible owned by Catherine Parker Fullen, thought to be a daughter in law, the following entry is found under Burials: Daddy Fullen 1850.

Even his birthdate is unknown. Presumably he would have been the same age, or older, than his wife Rebecca, who was born circa 1826. The 1850 census indicates that both Rebecca and her husband were born in Pennsylvania. As Rebecca was the only adult in the household, she probably reported this information herself. It appears that their families must have migrated to the South when they were young however. W. F. Fullen did not recall his grandparent's Pennsylvania orgins, but rather reported his grandparents born in North Carolina and Tennessee. On the 1870 census, their oldest son William reported that both his parents were both born in Pennsylvania, while his younger brother John reported them both born in Alabama. In 1900, John reported their place of birth as Tennessee.

There are other families from Pennsylvania on the 1850 Sabine County, Texas census, but none seemed to live nearby the young widow, who was in household number 81. Rebecca's closest neighbors were the Jackson and Davidson families from North Carolina and Tennessee, the Oliphant's from Mississippi, and the Smith's from Virginia. Families with Pennsylvania origins were headed by 70 year old David Welch, household #138; 70 year old George Koher, household #180; 94 year old Henry Stagner, household #191; and 90 year old Michael Widner, household #192. There were a scattering of other families from Pennsylvania as well, but none have obvious links to the Fullen's.

(Research):
Items for later follow up

1810 Census
Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, Chestnut Ward
HOH James Fullen
Free White Males under 10: one
Free White Males 26-44: one
Free White Females under 10: two
Free White Females 16-25: 1
Number of HH members under 16: 3
Number of HH members over 25: 1
Number of HH members: 5

Also, the 1850 US Census Mortality schedule shows a James Fullen, age 43, and whose occupation was Cooper, as dying of dyspepsia in Westmoreland County, PA in 1850

James married Rebecca Bal(L)\(Dwin) before 1844. Rebecca was born about 1826 in Pennsylvania; died after 1850 in Sabine County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

A mother at age 18, and widowed with three young sons at the age of 24. She appears to have remarried Solomon Causey sometime after the 1850 census. It appears that she died prior to 1860, as only her sons, William and John were living in Solomon's home at the time of the 1860 census, along with Solomon's new wife Harriett.

A listing in the Family Bible of Catherine Parker Fullen, under burials, shows:

Becky Fullen 1852

Her grandson, W.F. Fullen, reported her maiden name as Baldwin. Some published histories of Sabine County show her instead as Rebecca Ball. No other Ball or Baldwin families are listed on the 1850 or 1860 Census for Sabine County. The census shows Rebecca as being born in Pennsylvania. Her grandson William reported that she was instead born in North Carolina.