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Charlie Forse

Male 1905 - 1984  (79 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Charlie Forse was born on 11 Apr 1905 in Bronson, Sabine County, Texas (son of William Charles "Charley" Forse and Mary Della Elizabeth Crouch); died on 16 Apr 1984 in Sabine County, Texas; was buried in Plainview Cemetery (aka Plainview Family Cemetery), Pineland, Sabine County, Texas.

    Notes:

    County Judge 1941-1949, and again in 1971. (White and Toole, p. 55)

    Family/Spouse: Ollie Irene McGown. Ollie (daughter of Andrew Henderson McGown and Vitura Evelyn "Lina" Whitehead) was born on 4 Aug 1906 in Texas; died on 27 Jun 1986; was buried in Plainview Cemetery (aka Plainview Family Cemetery), Pineland, Sabine County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Notes:

    Married:
    Charlie Forse m Ollie Irene McGown. Issue: Charles M.; Forrest K.; Marilyn Irene; Wm. Howard, and Alice Evelyn. Judge Forse and wife alternated in teaching and going to school while bringing up their children, but both rec'd a B.S. and a Masters degree from Stephen F. Austin State College. He served as principal or superintendent of schools in five different counties in Texas, a total of thirty-one years, and is again County Judge. (White and Toole, p 55).

    Children:
    1. Charles M. "Jack" Forse was born on 12 Feb 1928 in Sabine County, Texas; died on 21 Jul 1996 in Farmington, San Juan County, New Mexico; was buried on 2 Aug 1996 in Plainview Cemetery (aka Plainview Family Cemetery), Pineland, Sabine County, Texas.
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Generation: 2

  1. 2.  William Charles "Charley" Forse was born on 10 May 1877 in Bronson, Sabine County, Texas (son of William Henry Forse and Eliza Rice); died on 15 Oct 1970 in Bronson, Sabine County, Texas; was buried in Bronson Cemetery, Bronson, Sabine County, Texas.

    Notes:

    (Research):

    Census Listings:

    1920 Census
    Texas, Sabine County, JP 6
    Enumerated 31 Jan 1920
    SD 326 ED 173 Sheet 22A
    426-426
    Forse, William C Head M W 42 M Tx Tx Tx Farmer
    Forse, Della M Wf F W 37 M Tx Ark Ga
    Forse, Mary E Dtr F W 16 S Tx Tx Tx
    Forse, Charlie Son M W 14 S Tx Tx Tx
    Forse, Mabel Dtr F W 12 S Tx Tx Tx
    Forse, Elbert B Son M W 10 S Tx Tx Tx

    William married Mary Della Elizabeth Crouch. Mary (daughter of George W. Crouch, M. D. and Sarah "Sally" Tucker) was born on 14 Sep 1881 in Sabine County, Texas; died on 17 Mar 1927 in Texas; was buried in Bronson Cemetery, Bronson, Sabine County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Mary Della Elizabeth Crouch was born on 14 Sep 1881 in Sabine County, Texas (daughter of George W. Crouch, M. D. and Sarah "Sally" Tucker); died on 17 Mar 1927 in Texas; was buried in Bronson Cemetery, Bronson, Sabine County, Texas.
    Children:
    1. Mary E. Forse was born about 1903 in Sabine County, Texas; and died.
    2. 1. Charlie Forse was born on 11 Apr 1905 in Bronson, Sabine County, Texas; died on 16 Apr 1984 in Sabine County, Texas; was buried in Plainview Cemetery (aka Plainview Family Cemetery), Pineland, Sabine County, Texas.
    3. Mae Belle Forse was born about 1907 in Sabine County, Texas; and died.
    4. Elbert Burton Forse was born on 9 Dec 1909 in Sabine County, Texas; died in Mar 1975 in Arlington, Tarrant County, Texas.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  William Henry Forse was born on 22 Jul 1850 in Texas (son of John Smith Forse and Melissa Ann Fuller); died before 1934 in Sabine County, Texas.

    Notes:

    1880 Federal Census:

    Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace William H. FORCE Self M Male W 30 TX Farmer MO AR Eliza FORCE Wife M Female W 34 TX Keeps Hou Malissa FORCE Other S Female W 8 TX --- --- John D. FORCE Son S Male W 6 TX --- --- William FORCE Son S Male W 3 TX --- --- Mary FORCE Dau S Female W 9M TX --- ---


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information:
    Census Place Precinct 4, Sabine, Texas
    Family History Library Film 1255325
    NA Film Number T9-1325
    Page Number 228B

    William married Eliza Rice on 7 Aug 1871 in Bronson, Sabine County, Texas. Eliza (daughter of Joseph Rice and Jane Catherine Melton) was born about 1844 in Mississippi; died in in Sabine County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Eliza Rice was born about 1844 in Mississippi (daughter of Joseph Rice and Jane Catherine Melton); died in in Sabine County, Texas.
    Children:
    1. Melissa Alice Forse was born on 28 Jul 1872 in Sabine County, Texas; died on 31 May 1971; was buried in Pleasant Grove Cemetery (aka Whitehead Cemetery or Martin-Whitehead Cemetery), Pineland, Sabine County, Texas.
    2. John Burton Forse was born on 16 Oct 1874 in Sabine County, Texas; died on 23 Mar 1966 in Newton, Newton County, Texas; was buried in Newton City Cemetery, Newton, Newton County, Texas.
    3. Walter Forse was born about 1876; and died.
    4. 2. William Charles "Charley" Forse was born on 10 May 1877 in Bronson, Sabine County, Texas; died on 15 Oct 1970 in Bronson, Sabine County, Texas; was buried in Bronson Cemetery, Bronson, Sabine County, Texas.
    5. Mary E. Forse was born on 5 Sep 1878 in Sabine County, Texas; died in Aug 1881 in Sabine County, Texas.
    6. Alberta "Bertie" Forse was born after 1880; and died.
    7. Joseph M. Forse was born on 9 Nov 1881 in Sabine County, Texas; died on 16 May 1882 in Sabine County, Texas.
    8. Allen Isaac Forse was born on 12 Apr 1883 in Hemphill, Sabine County, Texas; died in Feb 1963 in Texas.
    9. Horace Homer "Pless" Forse was born on 24 May 1892 in Sabine County, Texas; died on 23 Nov 1970 in Sabine County, Texas.

  3. 6.  George W. Crouch, M. D. was born on 27 Oct 1858 in Arkansas (son of John H. Crouch and Elizabeth "Betty" Ray); died on 4 Oct 1912 in Texas; was buried in Bronson Cemetery, Bronson, Sabine County, Texas.

    Notes:

    The son of John H. Crouch, had brothers Jim, Andrew, and Floyd. (White and Toole, pp 53, 54).

    (Research):

    Census Listings:

    1880 Census
    Texas, Sabine County, SubDiv 84
    Enumerated 12 Jun 1880
    Page 30 SD 1 ED 84
    275-286
    Crouch, George W M 21 Farmer Ark Ga Ga
    Crouch, Sarah J W F 21 Wife Ga SC Ky
    Crouch, Job Henry W M 6/12 Son Tex Ark Ga

    1900 Census
    Texas, Sabine County, JP 3
    Enumerated 7 Jun 1900
    SD 8 ED 70 Sheet 4B
    64-64
    Crouch, George Head W M Oct 1859 46 M 21 Ark Ga Ga Physician
    Crouch, Sarah J Wf W F May 1869 41 m 21 9/7 Ga Ga va
    Crouch, Della Dau W F Sep 1881 18 S Tx Ark Ga
    Crouch, Alexander Son W M Jan 1884 16 S Tx Ark Ga Farm Laborer
    Crouch, Anna Dau W F Sep 1889 11 S Tx Ark Ga
    Crouch, Lydia C Dau W F Nov 1893 6 S Tx Ark Ga
    Crouch, Minnie O Dau W F Jly 1896 3 S Tx Ark Tx
    Crouch, Curtis Son M W Jan 1900 5.12 S Tx Ark Ga

    George married Sarah "Sally" Tucker on 26 Dec 1878 in Sabine County, Texas. Sarah was born on 25 Mar 1859 in Georgia; died in May 1921 in Texas; was buried in Bronson Cemetery, Bronson, Sabine County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Sarah "Sally" Tucker was born on 25 Mar 1859 in Georgia; died in May 1921 in Texas; was buried in Bronson Cemetery, Bronson, Sabine County, Texas.

    Notes:

    The sister of Andrew Tucker of Sabinetown. (White and Toole, p 54).

    Notes:

    Married:
    They were the parents of Della, Anna, Alex, Wm., Liddie, Curtis, Ola and Dixon. Della, Anna, Alex, and Liddie were school teachers. Wm. was in the furniture business, having a chain of strores. Curtis became a construction engineer, but dropped out of sight, and it is now known if he is living or dead. Anna Crouch m Otha Hammond; Ola m Norman Ball; Liddie m Zebbie Williams. She earned her Bachelor and Master degree from Stephen F. Austin State College and taught for many yeas. (White and Toole, p 53).

    Children:
    1. Job Henry Crouch was born about 1879 in Texas; was buried in Low's Chapel Cemetery, Hemphill, Sabine County, Texas.
    2. 3. Mary Della Elizabeth Crouch was born on 14 Sep 1881 in Sabine County, Texas; died on 17 Mar 1927 in Texas; was buried in Bronson Cemetery, Bronson, Sabine County, Texas.
    3. Alexander Hamilton Crouch was born on 25 Jan 1884 in Sabine County, Texas; died on 4 Sep 1951 in Texas; was buried in Brookside Memorial Park, Houston, Harris County, Texas.
    4. Anna Crouch was born in Sep 1889 in Sabine County, Texas; and died.
    5. William Crouch was born in Feb 1890 in Sabine County, Texas; and died.
    6. Lydia C. Crouch was born in Nov 1893 in Sabine County, Texas; and died.
    7. Minnie D. Crouch was born in Jul 1896 in Sabine County, Texas; and died.
    8. Robert Curtis Crouch was born on 19 Jan 1900 in Sabine County, Texas; died on 20 Feb 1974 in Orange County, California; was buried in Rose Hills Memorial Park Cemetery, Whittier, Los Angeles County, California.
    9. Dixon H. Crouch was born about 1903 in Sabine County, Texas; died on 13 Sep 1940 in Shreveport, Caddo Parish, Louisiana; was buried in Bronson Cemetery, Bronson, Sabine County, Texas.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  John Smith Forse was born on 20 May 1823 in Boonville, Cooper County, Missouri; died before 1898 in San Augustine County, Texas; was buried in W. W. Parker Cemetery, San Augustine County, Texas.

    Notes:

    Married more than once. (White and Toole, p 53).

    Elizabeth Beres shows him as a son of Charles Forse, born 29 Nov 1788 in Newark, New Jersey and died before 1850 in Crockett, Texas, and Elizabeth Conner, born ca 1792 in Rocheport, Boone County, Missouri and died before 1842.

    Dickie J. Sims emailed that "John Smith Forse owned a sawmill which could be hauled in two or three wagons. It took at least three men to run the sawmill. They didn't have a way to haul big logs to the mill except by oxen, so it was normal practice to haul the mill where the timber was. "

    (Research):

    Census Listings:

    1850 Census
    Texas, San Augustine County, San Augustine District
    Enumerated 20 Sept 1850
    239-239
    John Forse 26 M Millwright Mo
    Malissy Forse 22 F Illinois
    Henrietta Fuller 12 F Illinois

    1860 Census
    Texas, Sabine County, Bare Creek Beat, P. O. Bare Creek
    Enumerated 11 July 1860
    Page 3
    261-261
    John Force 35 M Mechanic 140 Mo
    Lucinda D Force 19 F Ky
    William Force 10 M Tx
    Thomas D Force 1 M Tx
    Howel C Force 1/12 M Tx

    1870 Census
    Texas, Sabine County, Beat No. 3, P. O. Brookeland
    Enumerated 12 Aug 1870
    Page 9 and 10 Stamped 23
    566-566
    Force, John 45 M W Mill Wright $300 $200 Mo
    Force, Lucinda 24 F W Keeping House Ky
    Force, William 20 M W Tx
    Force, Thomas 10 M W Tx
    Force, Charles 10 M Tx
    Force, Josephine 7 F Tx
    Force, Alice 2 F Tx

    1880 Census
    Texas, Sabine County, JP 3
    Enumerated 2 July 1880
    Page 21 SD 1 ED 85 Stamped 218 A
    189-199
    Force, John W M 59 Mill wright Mo NY MO
    Force, Lucindi W F 39 Wf Ky Ky Ky
    Force, Charlie W m 20 S Farmer Tx Mo Ky
    Force, Josephine W F 14 Dtr Tx Mo Ky
    Force, Alice W F 11 Dtr Tx Mo Ky
    Force, Jackson M M 8 Son Tx Mo Ky
    Force, Sidney W M 5 son Tx Mo Ky
    Force, Lillie W F 3 Dtr Tx Mo Ky
    Force, Robert W M 1 Son Tx Mo Ky

    John married Melissa Ann Fuller. Melissa was born about 1836 in Arkansas; died after 1850 in San Augustine County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Melissa Ann Fuller was born about 1836 in Arkansas; died after 1850 in San Augustine County, Texas.

    Notes:

    May have instead been born is Illinois, as per the 1850 census.

    Children:
    1. 4. William Henry Forse was born on 22 Jul 1850 in Texas; died before 1934 in Sabine County, Texas.

  3. 10.  Joseph Rice was born about 1806 in Tennessee; and died.

    Notes:

    May have instead been born in South Carolina.

    Joseph married Jane Catherine Melton. Jane was born about 1816 in Tennessee; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Jane Catherine Melton was born about 1816 in Tennessee; and died.

    Notes:

    In 1850, she is listed as Catherine, in 1860 she is shown as Jane, and in 1870 Jane C.

    Children:
    1. Matthias J. Rice was born on 15 Jan 1832 in Mississippi; died on 16 Feb 1918 in Sabine County, Texas; was buried in Spring Hill Cemetery, Hemphill, Sabine County, Texas.
    2. Delia Rice was born about 1836 in Mississippi; and died.
    3. Jesse Rice was born about 1839 in Mississippi; and died.
    4. Mary Rice was born about 1841 in Mississippi; and died.
    5. Samantha Rice was born about 1843; and died.
    6. 5. Eliza Rice was born about 1844 in Mississippi; died in in Sabine County, Texas.

  5. 12.  John H. Crouch was born about 1832 in Georgia; died after 1872 in Texas.

    Notes:

    Bob Crouch posted, on the Sabine County, Texas Message Board in July 1997, that he was "Looking for information re: John Henry CROUCH, b. 1833 in GA. Married Elizabeth RAY, b. 1833, Heard Co. GA.

    They moved to Ouachita Cnty AR before 1853. John Henry served in Co. H, 19 (Dockery's Arkansas Infantry). He was captured at the fall of Vicksburg.

    The family moved to the Milam area of Sabine Co. before 1870.

    Looking also for information about his descendants:
    Joseph W. CROUCH b. 1853. m. Margaret ???
    George Washington CROUCH b. 27 Oct 1858, d. 4 Oct 1912 Bronson, Sabine Co. m.26 Dec 1878,Sarah (Sally) Jane TUCKER in Sabine Co.
    Thomas H. CROUCH b. 1862, m 4 Oct 1888 S. LEWIS San Augustine
    Martha J. (Mattie) CROUCH WRIGHT b. 13 Oct 1864 d. 26 Jun 1927 m. 1 Dec 1880, Jasper Newton WRIGHT in Sabine Co.
    Andrew Jackson CROUCH b. 5 Apr 1868, d. 27 May 1946 m.22 Oct Lela Florence TAYLOR, Sabine Co.
    Floyd L. CROUCH b. 12 Aug 1870, Sabine Co. d. 6 Jan 1955 TX m1 Zelda GRAY, m2 Irene ??

    (Research):

    Census Listings:

    1860 Census
    Arkansas, Ouachita County, Jackson Twp, PO Caney
    Enumerated 15 Aug 1860
    Page 96
    664-690
    Crouch, John H 18 M Farmer 1600 175 Ga
    Crouch, Elizabeth 27 F Ga
    Crouch, John 10 M Ga
    Crouch, Joseph 7 M Ga
    Crouch, George 2 M Ga

    1870 Census
    Texas, Sabine County, Beat 3, PO Brookeland
    Enumerated 14 Aug 1870
    595-595
    Crouch, John 38 M W Minister Gospel $1000 $--- Ga
    Crouch, Elizabeth 37 F W Keeping House Ga
    Crouch, John W 19 M W Ga
    Crouch, Joseph W 17 M W Ga
    Crouch, George W 13 M W Ark
    Crouch, Thomas H 9 m W Ark
    Crouch, Martha J 6 F W Ark
    Crouch, James M 4 M W Ark
    Crouch, Andrew J 2 M W Ark

    John married Elizabeth "Betty" Ray. Elizabeth was born in Feb 1833 in Georgia; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Elizabeth "Betty" Ray was born in Feb 1833 in Georgia; and died.

    Notes:

    Said to be a daughter of Wade Hampton Ray and Samantha Childs.

    (Research):

    Census Listings:

    1880 Census
    Texas, Sabine County
    Enumerated 16 Jun 1880
    Page 4D SD 1 ED 85
    39-40
    Crouch, Elizabeth W F 47 Farmer Ga
    Crouch, Thomas H W M 18 Farm Laborer Ark
    Crouch, Martha W F 15 Keeping House Ark
    Crouch, James M W M 14 Farm Laborer Ark
    Crouch, Andrew J W M 12 Farm Laborer Ark
    Crouch, Floyd W M 8 Tx

    1900 Census
    Texas, Sabine County, Pr 6
    Enumerated 13 Jun 1900
    SD 8 ED 70 Sheet 9A Stamped 126
    151-151
    Crouch, Floyd Head W M Jun 1871 29 S Tx TGa Ga Farmer
    Crouch, Elizabeth Mother W F Feb 1833 67 Wd 9/7 Ga Ga Ga
    Forse, Sidney Boarder M W --- 1887 23 S Tx Mo Ky Farm Laborer

    Children:
    1. John W. Crouch was born about 1851 in Georgia; and died.
    2. Joseph W. Crouch was born about 1853 in Georgia; and died.
    3. 6. George W. Crouch, M. D. was born on 27 Oct 1858 in Arkansas; died on 4 Oct 1912 in Texas; was buried in Bronson Cemetery, Bronson, Sabine County, Texas.
    4. Thomas H. Crouch was born about 1861 in Arkansas; and died.
    5. Martha J. Crouch was born about 1864 in Arkansas; and died.
    6. James Monroe Crouch was born on 1 Jun 1866 in Arkansas; died on 26 Jun 1937; was buried in Centerview Cemetery, Pineland, Sabine County, Texas.
    7. Andrew Jackson "A. J." Crouch was born on 5 Apr 1868 in Arkansas; died on 27 Mar 1946 in Bronson, Sabine County, Texas; was buried in Centerview Cemetery, Pineland, Sabine County, Texas.
    8. Floyd Leroy Crouch was born in Jun 1871 in Sabine County, Texas; died on 4 Jun 1954 in Sabine County, Texas; was buried in Centerview Cemetery, Pineland, Sabine County, Texas.