Sarah Cevilla Herbert

Notes:

This appears to be the Mrs. Cevilla SOUDER who was listed as a "friend who remembers" in the funeral booklet of Ida Elliott SMITH.

CEVILLA SOUDER 30 Jan 1899 Sep 1971 48849 (Lake Odessa, Ionia, MI) (none specified) 297-03-7808 Ohio

Per her form SS-5, this is the same person. Cevilla Herbert Souder 945 Leonard Street Fostoria, OH Gray Printing Company 335 E. North St. Fostoria, OH Age 38 DOB Jan. 30, 1899 Lake Odessa, MI Father John Jacob Herbert Mother Ella Irene Elliott Female White May 21, 1937 date of application

Sarah married William Henry Souder on 16 Nov 1925 in Adrian, Lenawee County, Michigan. William (son of Charles Lewis Souder and Christena Herbert) was born on 26 Jan 1889 in Fostoria, Seneca County, Ohio; died in Aug 1955 in Indiana. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Ellsworth William Souder was born on 2 Dec 1925; died on 2 Feb 1926 in Seneca County, Ohio.
2. Living
3. Living
4. Living
5. Living

Notes:

1900 Federal Census, Michigan, Ionia County, Odessa Twp, ED #21 #66-69
Herbert, John Head W M Dec 1869 30 M 2yrs Ohio Germany Germany Farmer
Herbert, Ellen Wife W F Aug 1870 29 M 2yrs Ohio Virginia Pennsylvania
Herbert, Sarah (sic) Dtr W F Jan 1899 Single Michigan Ohio Ohio
Herbert, Willia A Lodger W M Jan 1890 Single Michigan Michigan Michigan

1910 Federal Census, Michigan, Ionia County, Odessa Township, ED #26 85-86
Herbert John J Hd 39 M1 12 Germany Germany Germany Farmer
Herbert, Ella Wf 38 M 12 3/3 Ohio Virginia Pennsylvania
Herbert, Cevilla Dtr 11 Mich Oh Oh
Herbert, John B Sn 7 Mich Oh Oh
Herbert, Gurtha I Dtr 2 Mich Oh Oh
Van Houtin, May Servent 19 S Mich Mich Mich

Of interest is that in Ionia Township, ED #16, 49-43, 33 year old Fred Herbert, born in Germany of German parents, is a boarder in the home of Alice Donovan.

1920 Federal Census, Michigan, Ionia County, Odessa Township, ED #89 #106-107
John Herbert Head 49 Ohio Germany German Germany German Farmer
Ella Herbert Wife 45 Ohio Virginia Pennsylvania
Cevilla Herbert Daughter 19 Michigan Ohio Ohio Teacher Public School
Bernard C. Herbert Son 16 Michigan Ohio Ohio
Gurtha Herbert Daughter 12 Michigan Ohio Ohio

1930 Federal Census, Michigan, Ionia County, Odessa Township, ED#28

John J. Herbert Head M W 65 M 26 Ohio Germany Germany Farmer
Ella Herbert Wife F W 54 M 25 Ohio Virginia Pennsylvania
Gurtha Herbert Daughter F W 23 Michigan Ohio Ohio Telephone Operator
Edward ----- Foster M W 11 Michigan US US
Bernard Herbert Son M W 27 M 26 Mich Ohio Ohio Laborer Farm
Mary Herbert Daughter in law F W 20 M 19 Mich Mich Mich
Keith B Herbert Grandson M W 5/12 Mich Mich Mich

John married Ella Irene Elliott. Ella (daughter of Augustus E. Elliott and Sarah Ann Cramer) was born on 18 Aug 1870 in Ohio; died on 19 Jun 1953 in Ionia County, Michigan; was buried in Lakeside Cemetery, Lake Odessa, Ionia County, Michigan. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

BIOGRAPHY: CONRAD HERBERT, farmer, P O. Alvada, was born in Germany February 19, 1830, son of Frederick and Margarito Herbert, natives of Germany, where they lived until Mrs. Herbert's death in 1849. Frederick Herbert resided several years in his native land; then immigrated to America, and to London Township, Seneca Co., Ohio, in 1861, where he departed this life May 1, 1868. Our subject was united in marriage, January 11, 1859, with Civillie Fruith, also a native of Germany, born January 9, 1840, a daughter of Jacob J. and Civillie Fruith, who were born in the old country, immigrating to America, and locating in Cuyahoga County, near Cleveland, Ohio, where they remained two years; thence came to this county, where Mr. Fruith died April 23, 1873; his widow resides in Loudon Township. Mr. and Mrs. Herbert have had eleven children, nine now living: Susan M. (wife of Nathan A. Hakes), Christena, Katharine (wife of Lewis Siegchrist.), Anna M., John J., Barbara E., Conrad A.. Augusta C. and Lucy A. Edward and an infant are deceased. Mr. Herbert is a carpenter by-trade, an occupation he followed one year after coming to America in 1853. In 1854 he went to California, and after engaging in mining nearly four years returned to this county, where he now owns 170 acres of improved land, and has since been farming. Mr. Herbert has been a member of the school board twelve years. He and his wife are members of the Reformed Church. - Source: History of Seneca County, Ohio. Published by Warner, Beers & CO., Chicago: 1886 Page 720 & 721

Conrad HERBERT Self M Male W 50 BAVARIA BAVARIA BAVARIA Sabina HERBERT Wife M Female W 40 BAVARIA Keeping House BAVARIA BAVARIA Christina HERBERT Dau S Female W 18 OH At Home BAVARIA BAVARIA Catharine HERBERT Dau S Female W 15 OH At Home BAVARIA BAVARIA Anna HERBERT Dau S Female W 13 OH BAVARIA BAVAR John HERBERT Son S Male W 10 OH BAVARIA BAVARIA Samantha HERBERT Dau S Female W 7 OH BAVARIA BAVAR Conrad HERBERT Son S Male W 4 OH BAVARIA BAVARIA Augusta HERBERT Dau S Female W 3 OH BAVARIA BAVARIA Source Information:
Census Place Big Spring, Seneca, Ohio
Family History Library Film 1255065
NA Film Number T9-1065
Page Number 303B

Conrad married Civilla Fruth on 11 Jan 1859 in Seneca County, Ohio. Civilla was born on 9 Jan 1840 in Germany; died on 23 Feb 1920 in Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Avis Augusta Smith had the following to say about her grandfather, for whom she was named: "My grandfathers name was Augustus Eliott. He was a redhead and wore a Van Dyke beard. He was part Dutch and was from Culpepper, Virginia. During the Civil War he fought in the Union Army. He had five brothers who fought in the Confederate Army. He was wounded at Gettysburg, and was at a hospital with one of his brothers, who was also wounded. His family was Baptist. They had owned a Tobacco plantation, which was destroyed by the war. After the war, he moved to Michigan. The rest of his family stayed in Virginia. He had a sister who was still well to do after the war. He had been trained as a tobacco auctioneer, but obviously there was little need for that in Michigan. He became a general auctioneer instead." Augustus and his wife Sarah lived with Avis while she was growing up.

Though the essence of Avis's recollections about her grandfather appear to be correct, some of the details seem to have gotten garbled. Although Augustus may have lived at some time in Culpepper, it appears that he actually was born in Washington, Virginia (per his Pension Application). His occupation is also shown as "Farmer" and not auctioneer, though he easily could have been both. He had also moved to Ohio prior to the onset of the war. From the 1850 census, it appears Augustus had only four brothers, not five, although is is possible an another brother might have left home prior to the census. Although I did find the name of a William Elliot in an index of Confederate Pensioners from Rappahannock County, I did not see the name of any of the other brothers. Additionally, since older brother David Elliot had also settled in Ohio prior to the Civil War, it is possible that he might also have enlisted in the Union Army, or stayed neutral.

Although Augustus was wounded at war, it was in December 1862 in Petersburgh, West Virginia. He was hospitilized, first at Church Hospital and then at the Canal Invalid Hospital, both in Cumberland, Maryland. He was given a medical discharge in April, 1863. This was several months before the Battle of Gettysburg in July of that same year.

Augustus Elliott was enrolled in the Union Army on the 22nd day of August, 1862 at Fostoria, Ohio in Captain R.A. Kirkwoood's Co I, 123rd Regiment of Ohio Volunteers, to serve for 3 years or during the war. He mustered into service as a private on the 24th day of September 1862 at Thomasville. According to a letter from the War Department, Surgeon General's Office, Record and Pension Division, Washington D.C., dated April 18, 1872 "It appears from the records in this Office, that Augustus E. Elliott, Private, Co I, 123 Regiment, Ohio Volunteers was admitted to General Hospital, Cumberland, MD, January 7, 1863 for treatment for Neuralgia of head, and was discharged the service April 10, 1863, because of Neuraligia of head. No records of Perryville, Md. on file. The Reg't Register commences on June 13, 1863. JJ Woodward Asst Surgeon US Army Vol 29, No 1578"

What exactly happened to cause his hospitilization and discharge is unclear. And although Augustus applied for a disability pension in 1870, it appears that he did not begin receiving any payments until around 1921. The original Surgeon's Certificate of Disability stated he was unfit to perform the duties of a soldier because of "Neuralgia of head resulting from a severe wound received upon the top of his head about a year ago--previous to enlistment. There is much nervous prostration and deafness." A fellow soldier, Jacob Bowman, thought Augustus was hospitalized after a case of Typhoid fever. It was also noted that his "Heart is very irritable after slight exertion and standing the pulse is 120. Heart(beats?) are clear and regular and apex beat is heard in normal position on 5th ??? space"

However, on his original Declaration for an Invalid Pension, filed on August 13, 1869, Augustus explained that he was disabled "by having his right hip dislocated in the following manner: on the night of that day Imbodens' Rebel Cavalry having surprised and captured the outposts made a sudden attack on the Camp before it could be alarmed & things were real lively for a time. In trying to get out of the way of flying bullets, cavalry soldiers...being himself unarmed he did it the darkness of night...fall over a precipice some 15 or 20 feet high thusly dislocating his hip. For this he was treated in the General Hospital of Cumberland to the 11th of April 1863 when discharged."

In another affidavit filed June 20, 1870, Augustus stated that while in the line of duty at Petersburgh, West Virginia, about December 19, 1862, he sustained a dislocation of his right hip from which a permanent disability has resulted. That the injury was received by falling over a precipice some ten or twenty feet high in an attempt to avoid capture by the enemy. He elaborated (and perhaps exaggerated) his story in an affidavit filed August 27, 1870, in which he stated that about December 20, 1862, while on duty guarding commissary store at Petersburgh, W. Va., he, with others, was captured by the rebels, and the following night he escaped; in so doing "he fell down an embankment, about thirty five feet high, spraining and bruising--to such an extent to render him unfit for duty from that time until his discharge. From the effects of said fall he received a rupture in the right side from which he is still suffering. He also alleged heart disease caused by hardships which he endured while escaping." Jacob Dillon of Fostoria, Ohio signed an affidavit stating that he was a member of the same company and regiment and that he was present at the time while Augustus was escaping from the Confederate forces, and actually saw him fall "from a ledge of rocks about twenty feet in Height." Whatever happened to Augustus, it appears he was in very poor physical condition at the time of his discharge. John W. Green testified that he was in the Canal Hospital with Augustus, who had "came to the said hospital going with a cane, and he was very pale and poor, he had a bad ankle and complained of his hip. His privates were badly swollen...I do not know if he was ruptured or not. He complained of soreness in the left side and also complained of heart trouble. It seemed difficult for the Claimant to breathe when he was in a reclining position...I heard Dr. C. C. Perry the hospital doctor say that the claimant was unfit for duty caused by heart disease and as soon as he was able was going to send him home." Alexander McDonel, a friend from Ohio stated that "I have known Augustus Elliott for 30 years and have always known him to be a man of good character and steady habits. I have done work for him. I knew him well in Ohio before he enlisted and I believe he was perfectly sound at the date of his enlistment. I enlisted in 1861 Co H 21 OVI. I saw him again some time early in 1863 when he arrived at the depot on his way home. He was then a living skelton going on a cane."

According to Family Tree Maker CD 450 County and Family Histories: OH 1780-1970, Disk 5, Seneca County, Liberty Township (C) Broderbund, "August Elliot" was a trustee of the Ebenezer Chapel Society, Bettsville, (which) was incorporated May 19, 1865, along with William Cramer and Henry Cramer (his brother's in law).

On June 20, 1870 when he filed for the invalid pension (Application #157769, Certificate #886142). He was described as 6 feet tall, light complexion, with blue eyes and light hair.

Augustus E. Elliott - died Nov. 2, 1921, male, white, married. Age 82y, 7m, 3 d. Died of Myocaridial Deg. Born: Virginia. Retired farmer. Parents: Wm. Elliott , Born VA. and mother, unknown.Volume 6, page 468

On January 23, 1922, his wife Sarah filed for a Widow's pension from Michigan (Application #1184108, Certificate #913733).

(Research):

Census Listings:

1870 Census
Ohio, Seneca County, Loudon Twp, PO Fostoria
Enumerated 16 Jun 1870
Page 11 Stamped 168
71-70
Elliott, Augustus 27 M W Farmer 1600 645 Virg
Elliott, Sarah A 32 F W Keeping House Pa
Elliott, Flora J 6 F W Ohio
Elliott, Ida A 5 F W Ohio
Elliott, Charles W 2 M W Ohio
72-71
Henry and Mary J Cramer

1880 Census
Michigan, Ionia County, Odessa Twp
Enumerated 10 Jun 1880
Page 25 SD 2 ED 103 Sheet 323 A
231-236
Elliott, A E W M 35 Head Farmer Oh Ireland Va
Elliott, Sarah W F 41 Wf Keeping House Pa Pa Pa
Elliott, Flora W F 17 Dtr At School Oh Va Pa
Elliott, Ida W F 15 Dtr At School Oh Va Pa
Elliott, Charles W M 13 Son At School Oh Va Pa
Elliott, Ella/Ellen F F 10 Dtr At School Oh Va Pa
Elliott, Clinton M W 7 Son At School Oh Va Pa

1900
Not located

1910 Michigan Census, Eaton County, Oneida Township
Taylor Street
#154-160
Elliott, Agustus Head M W 70 M1 49 years Born VA Parents born GB/Irish Occupation Real Estate
Elliott, Sarah Wife F W 74 M1 49 years Mother of 7 children, 4 living Born PA, both parents PA
Elliott, Charles M W 41 single Does not read or write
-161 Smith, William Head M W 42 M1 12 years Born Mi, both parents MI Occupation: Merchant
Smith, Ida Alice wife F W 43 M1 12 years, Mother of 2 children
Smith, Avis A D F W 9 years born MI
Smith, Ilo D F W 3 years born MI

1920 Census Michigan, Eaton County, Oneida Township 15 Jan 1920
501 Taylor Street
#357-366 Elliott, Augustus E Head M W 81 M Born VA Parents born Ireland (Irish)
Elliott, Sarah A Wife F W 86 M Born PA, both parents PA
#358-367 Smith, William B Son in law M W M Born MI, Father born NY, Mother Canada/English Occupation: Merchant, General Store
Smith, Ida Alice Dtr F W 53 M
Smith, Avis A G/D F W 18 years born MI
Smith, Ilo G/D F W 13 years born MI

QUESTION TO RESOLVE

--Who is Burt Elliot? Among the effects of Avis Smith Benkelman, daughter of Ida Alice Elliott, was a picture taken in Ionia County, MI titled, "Uncle Burt Elliott and wife." Could the Bert Ellliot below be another relative? If so, how?Rebecca Asif of Burnsville, Minnesota is also a great-great-great granddaughter of Augustus Elliott. She received an identical picture from her aunt, and assumes the picture is of Augustus and Sarah, and that my copy must be mislabeled

There is no record of Augustus having a brother named Burt, nor of Flora, Ida and Ellen having a brother Burt. In the 1891 Ionia City Directory that was on Ancestory.com, I did find a listing for "Eliot, Bert Occ Farm Lab N.E. Smith Bds. Same page 212" There was a 3-8-1947 death record (G-468) for a Bert Elliott but his parents were John R. and Martha Jane (Lamie) Elliott who was born in Sugarin Falls, OH. Bert was b 3-30-1881, and lived at route 2 in Charlotte.

Another possibility is that, Avis's husband, Ben, had a second cousin named Burton Elliott, born in May 1883 in Cass City. He was the son of David Elliott of Brockford, New York and Matilda Krapf, and a grandson of Frederick Krapf and Dorothea Benkelman. Could this be the "Uncle Bert Elliott" of the picture? It does not seem likely as the picture was taken in an Ionia County photography studio, and not in Tuscola County where his family lived.

Augustus married Sarah Ann Cramer on 18 Aug 1861 in Seneca County, Ohio. Sarah (daughter of Johannes "John" Cramer, Sr. and Catharina Schlott) was born on 29 Apr 1834 in York County, Pennsylvania; died on 2 Feb 1924 in Grand Ledge, Eaton County, Michigan; was buried in Lakeside Cemetery, Lake Odessa, Ionia County, Michigan. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Avis Smith had the following comments about her grandmother: "Sara Cramer was from a Pennsylvania Dutch family. She was a widow and had two sons that had died. Her parents were farmers and congregationalists. They had lived in Finley, Ohio before the family moved to Lake Odessa, Michigan. She was a descendant of a Revolutionary War soldier. When married to Augustus Eliot, they had three daughters: Ida, Flora, and Ellen."

Augustus Elliott's pension application, as well as her widow's application, state that she had never been married before. Avis's other grandmother, Mary Ann Smith, was twice widowed. Perhaps this is who she was thinking of. Sarah and Augustus did have two sons who died young, and another son who appears to have been stillborn. This might also account for the discrepency in Avis's recollections.

At the time of the 1860 census, she was living in the home of her elder brother, Henry Cramer. She was listed as a "domestic" apparently helping her sister-in-law care for the home and children.


Death Index listing
Volume 7, page 427

Sarah Ann Eliott - died Feb. 2, 1924, Female, white, widow. Age 88y, 9m, 3d. Died of Arterial Sclerosis. Born: PA Housewife. Parents: J. Cramer & ------ Sloat.

Notes:

Married:
"Augustavus Elliott and Sarah Klemur licensed to marry August 16, 1861 O.C. Zeller, Clk"

"The State of Ohio, Seneca County, I certify that I this day soleminized the marriage of Augustus Elliott with Sarah A. Cramer. Witness my hand this 18 day of August A.D. 1861 A.B. Roe VDM. Certified and Recorded September 16, 1861 O.C. Zeller, Clk." Recorded in Vol. 5, page 419.

On his pension application, Augustus states that he and Sarah were married by Rev. Poe of the M.E. Church, Seneca County, Ohio on 18 August 1861. Dean Cramer shows they married in Fostoria.

Notes:

In extracts of the 1850 and 1860 census prepared by the Department of Commerce, Bureau of the Census that was dated September 19, 1914 the family is listed as follows. This extracts were prepared in connection with a Civil War pension application filed by Augustus Elliott:

Rappahannock County, VA, enumerated 12 Oct 1850
Joseph Elliott,45,M
Ellen,48,F
Darius (David M.), 25,M
Frederick,24,M
Lydia A,23,F
Susan,18,F
Eliza,15,F
Augusta,12,F (sic)
William,10,M
James,8,M

P.O. Washington, Rappahannock County, VA
enumerated 24 July 1860
Frederick Ellett, 27
Joseph, 57
Ellen,53
Lydia A, 25
Susan A,24
Eliza,22
Melvina,20
William H,19
James O,17 Tennessee
Vena, 21(black)
Sarah 11/12 (mulatto)

The Department of Commerce indicated that "it may be that the person named "Augusta" and recorded as a female, returned with the family of Joseph and Ellen Elliott, is the soldier whose age you desire, and that the assistant marshal made a mistake in stating the sex. Very respectfully, Wm. J. Harris, Director."

The ages on the extract in 1860 should be approximately ten years higher than those given in 1850. Most of them only vary a few years however. The actual census records should be examined to see if any of these discrepencies can be resolved. The more likely answer is that whomever answered the census takers questions just guessing at the ages of the members in the household.

It appears that Frederick had assumed the role of the head of the household in 1860, with his parents and siblings living with him. Perhaps his parents had become incompetent or infirm. Darius (David) and Augustus had left home, and there appeared to be three new family members, 20 year old Melvina (perhaps the wife of Frederick or William??), 21 year old Tennesse Vena and her 11 month old daughter Sarah. On Brenda Elliott's web page, Melvina is listed as a daughter. I am assuming she is not since she was not also listed on the 1850 census, and she would have been to young to have been already married in 1850. Additionally, Brenda lists a daughter named Ann, but does not show Lydia A. Could the daughter have been named Lydia Ann?

As of the 1870 Census, Joseph and Ellen were still living with son Frederick, however their other children were no longer in the home. In 1880, only Ellen was still a member of Frederick's household, so it appears that Joseph died sometime between 1870 and 1880.

Joseph was said to have died near Fredericksburg, Maryland.

These census records were retrieved based on a letter that Augustus personally wrote, dated May 11, 1914, to the Department of the Interior, Bureau of Pensions. They wanted to prove his age by locating him on the census records with his family. Augustus stated that: "During the year of 1850 and 1860 I lived at Washington City from then to Alexandria then at Little Washington, Rappahanic Co. I did not live with my parents after I was large enough to work for myself. I lived where I worked. I went from these to Fostoria, Ohio where I made my home with my brother David Elliott. My father's name was Joseph Elliott at Little Washington, Rap. Co, VA. Mothers name was Ellen Kenny Elliott. I have answered as best I can remember. Hoping this will be satisfactory I remain Augustus E. Elliott." In a follow up letter, dated June 17, 1914, Augustus elaborated: "From there I lived in Washington, Rapahanoc, Virginia with my father Joseph Elliott. Then I went to Fostoria, Ohio in 1860 where I lived with my brother David Elliott until I went to the war in 1862. In the letter you stated that I did not live with James Monroe. I worked for him and as I had no home I had to live where I worked. You said that I did not live with James T. Monroe in 1860. I went to Fostoria in 1860 but I did not live with him in Alexandria in that year but I was there some time between 1850 and 1860 but the year and date it is impossible for me to remember. Yours, A.E. Elliott."



(Research):Brenda Elliott shows him as the son of Samuel Elliott. Maria Elliott also shows this parentage, based on the book BIOGRAPHICAL RECORD OF WOOD COUNTY, OHIO, COMMERATIVE VOLUME II, 18797, pp 739-740. Maria received this information from Family Group Sheets compiled by Catherine Gerhart of Westerville, Ohio in January 1797.

This family group sheet furhtermore shows that Samuel Elliott was the father of George, Samuel Jr., Joseph, Susan, Winnie and Lydia.

Joseph married Elender Kenny on 30 Jan 1823 in Fauquier County, Virginia. Elender was born in 1802 in Virginia; died after 1880; was buried in Rappahannock County, Virginia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

On Brenda Eliott's webpage, (http://www/uftree.com/UFT/WebPages/BrendaElliott/ELLIOTT), Joseph's wife is shown as Eleanor McKenny(Kenny). It is noted that she was born in 1802. On the Rootsweb WorldConnect Project: Latest family tree update prepared by Yvonne Ramsell Simonson (http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=:393199&id=i4027), it is shown and Eleanor McKenney was born in the USA to Irish parents.

The only other family with the surname Kenny listed on the 1850 Rappahannock County, VA census was 48 year old Sylvanus Kenny, who was married to a 37 year old woman named Ann. This apparently was a second marriage, as his oldest child was 27 year old George W Kenny. There are 10 other children listed in his family. (Family 170). Living two homes away is 26 year old George W. Kenny with his 26 year old wife Susan. Was George W. listed in both households? Or were there two George W. Kenny's approximately the same age? Could Sylvanus have been Ellen's brother, perhaps even her twin as their ages are shown as the same? I noted that Sylvanus himself had twin sons, 16 year old John and Robert.

Becky Asif found the following database online: It shows Andrew Kenney having 2 daughters Eliza(1802) and Elender(1807). http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2829461&id=I239&ti=5535

She also found a marriage record of Sylvanus and Ann KENNY, as follows: SALVANUS KENNY ANN HEFLIN 12 January 1825 Fauquier

Other KENNY's that were married in Fauquier:

DANIEL BERRYMAN RUTHA KENNY 24 November 1821 Fauquier
EDWARD KENNY PATTY ROUTT 09 May 1791 Fauquier
JAMES BERRYMAN SUSANNA KENNY 13 March 1812 Fauquier
LANDON BERRYMAN MARY JANE KENNY 10 December 1832 Fauquier

Becky Asif also found the following, posted by George V. Hilburn to the Kenny Family Genealogy Forum. She speculates Eloiza and Ellender might be the same person.
http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?virginia::kenny::825.html

Kenny-Stadler Connection

The following is meant to show the connection between the three KENNY children (Eloiza, Sylvanus, & Richard) and Jacob STADLER. In the first part, monies were to be collected from the sale of slaves with the proceeds to be divided between the complainants and the defendants. The second is the actual appraisal to the court of the slaves. The third is the carrying out of the dispersal of some of the monies to the defendants (the minor children). In the third part is the phrase "grandfather's estate" instead of the name "Jacob STADLER."

It is believed that Jacob STADLER is not a blood grandfather, but one by marriage. A HORTON was probably the actual grandfather, but was dead by this time. Here is the reason why.
In the will of William KERNES, one of his daughters is referred to Elizabeth STADLER, wife of Jacob STADLER. There is also a reference in the KERNES will to his grandson, Benjamin HORTON. As the mother of the KENNY children was a HORTON (marriage lisence), and STADLER is referred to as a grandfather, it is safe to assume that Elizabeth KERNES STADLER was previously married to a HORTON. An unconfirmed source has this HORTON as Benjamin HORTON, born 1750 in Stafford Co, VA.

I. VIRGINIAFAUQUIER COURT MINUTE BOOK
1818-1819, LDS FILM #0,031,622
(handwritten, no index, & no page nos.)

This day came the complainants by this(?) attorney & filed their bill and also the defendants Benjamin, Eliza, and Mary HORTON, and filed their answer ? and on the Mo: of the compls the defendant Benjamin HORTON is appointed guardian of the defendant Eloiza KENNY, and Mary HORTON is appointed guardian to the Defts Sylvanus and Richard KENNY to defend them in this suit-who thereupon by their said guardians filed their answers-and by consent of parties the cause came (?) to be heard upon the bill. Answers the will of Jacob STADLER dec'd upon consideration. Whereof the court doth assign, order, and decree that the commissioners herein named sell upon a credit of twelve months the slaves in the bill mentioned upon advertising the time and place of sale at least thirty days previous thereto in the Palladium of Liberty presented in the town Warrenton-taking bond with approved slaves from the purchases and divide the proceeds thereof between the compls & defts according to the will of the dec'd Jacob STADLER in the proceedings mentioned upon the compts & defendants-giving bond with satisfactory security to the defendant Benjamin HORTON-??? ??? with the wife ??? of the said Jacob STADLER dec'd conditioned to save his ???? from all ???? of money which may hereafter be recovered against lien as ??? aforesaid-and Joseph D. SMITH, Benjamin GEORGE, Augustine SMITH Sr?-or any two of them are appointed commissioners to carry this decree into effect and make report thereof to this court in order to a final decree.

II. Virginia, Fauquier Co, Will Book 7, pg 305
LDS Film #0,031,568

Fauquier County, 8th June 1819
We, Augustine SMITH, Ja's D SMITH, and Benjamin GEORGE, being first sworn, have proceeded ???? to an order of court to us directed to appraise the estate of Jacob STADLER, dec'd shown to us by Benjamin HORTON, the adm. Viz

One negro woman named Fanny? $350
One negro boy named George 500
One negro girl named Susan 200
Total: $1050

Given from under our hands & seals this the day above written
Augustine SMITH, James D SMITH, Benjamin GEORGE
At a court held for Fauquier County the 26th day of July 1819
This inventory and appraisement of the estate of Jacob STADLER, dec'd, was return into court and ordered to be recorded. Teste Daniel WITHERS

III. VIRGINIA, FAUQUIER COUNTY PROBATE RECORDS
VOL 8-10
FILM #0,031,569
VOL 10, page 247

Eloiza? KENNY infant of Andrew KENNY on acct with Mary HORTON her guardian
February payment made as received?
By her proportion of her grandfather's estate agreeable to his will due
16th Oct 1820 13th Dec 1823 Sylvanus KENNY infant as aforesaid on acct with Mary HORTON his guardian
1824
March 16
By his proportion of his grandfather's estate
16 Oct 1820 to 16 Mar 1824

1824
Aug 2 Sylvanus KENNY
Richard KENNY infant as aforesaid to Mary Horton his guardian
1824
Oct 16
By his proportion of grandfather's estate due 16th Oct 1820
Pursuant to the annexed order of Fauquier County Court and the
Annexed notices to the parties we the undersigned commissioners
Have stated and settled the accounts of Mary HORTON guardian of
Eloiza KENNY, Sylvanus KENNY, and Richard KENNY find her charges
By proper vouchers given under our hands at ???? this 15th Sep 1827
A Blackwell
Rodham ????
Wm Thompson

At a court held for Fauquier County on the 22nd day of Oct 1827
This account and ???? was returned and ordered to be sixty days
For ???? options---and a court held for said county on the 24th day
Of Dec 1827. The same was confirmed and ordered to be recorded.
Test?
John AW Smith, (title)

Notes:

Married:
Jim Elliott, in December 1999, shared a scan of the following original marriage license for Joseph and Ellen, transcribed below.

KNOW ALL MEN BY THESE PRESENTS that we Joseph Elliott & George Berryman are held and firmly bound unto James Pleasants, Jr. Esq. Governor of Virginia, in the just and full sum of One Hundred and Fifty Dollars, to which payment well and truly be made, to the said Governor or his successor, we bind ourselves, our and each of our heirs, executors and administrators, jointly and severally, firmly by these presents:--Sealed with our seals and dated this 30 day of Jany 1823. THE CONDITION of the above obligation is such, that whereas a License hath this day been issued by the Clerk of the County Court of Fauquier for the intermarriage of the above bound Joseph Elliott with Elender Kenny, of the said County:--Now if there be no lawful excuse to obstruct said marriage, then the above obligation is to be void, else to remain in full force and virtue.

Signed sealed and delivered in presence of Joseph Elliott (Seal)

Wm T. PhillipsGeorge Berryman (Seal)

The above named George Berryman made oath before me, in my office,on the 30 Jan 1823, that the above named Joseph Elliott and Elender Kenny are each twenty-one years old. Given under my hand the date above. Wm. T Phillips, ???, Fauquier County Court

Date: Aug 9, 1995 I certify that the document to which this authentication is affixed is a true copy of a record in the Fauquier County Circuit Court, that I have custody of the record and that I am the custodian of the record. Wm D Harris Clerk By: SM Bradley Depurty Clerk

Marriage Register #4 Pg. 486

Notes:

Clarence E. Cramer writes that his baptismal sponsors were his maternal grandparents, Johann and Elisabetha Neidig. He was named in honor of Johann(es) Neudig. He indicated that after his marriage, he and Catharina lived near the Stone Church. He moved to Fostoria, Ohio sometime between 1837 and 1840...(with) printed records for each of these dates, as well as Family tales. (P. 57).

Edith Beard Cannon, in "Genealogical Reports for The Historical Society of York County, Vol. XXIX, p. 52, Evidence of the Cramer Families of York before the year 1850 REVISED" published 1843, cited the following deed:

(3A, 29) December 26, 1814. Johannes Cramer of Shrewsbury Township, yeoman; to John KOLLER: for $1.50: lot 18 in Shrewsbury town.

According to the "Biographical History of Van Wert County (Ohio), Volume II" John Cramer Sr came to Ohio in 1840 and settled on a farm in Seneca County, where he died June 29, 1856, his wife having departed September 16, 1854. They were both members of the German Lutheran Church, and in politics, Mr. Cramer was a democrat. He had served in the war of 1812 as a captain, and was an honored man in his community, where he left a fair fortune. (p. 154) In the book "Seneca County, Biographical Sketches" it says that John and Catherine (Slote) Cramer settled in Loudon Township, Seneca County, in 1838, and purchased 160 acres of land, most of which they cleared and improved and where they lived; here the father died in 1855, in his sixty fifth year; and the mother in 1854, in her sixty second year. (Loudon Township, p 893)

According to Dean Cramer, John donated some of his own land for the Cramer Cemetery in Fostoria, Ohio.

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Census Listings:

1850 Census
Ohio, Seneca County, Louden Twp
Enumerated 24 Sept 1850
Rome
85-85
John Cramer 59 M Farmer 3000 Pa
Cathrine Cramer 57 F Pa
Wm. Cramer 18 M Farmer
Sophis Cramer 16 F Pa
Sarah A Cramer 13 F Pa
John Hook 12 M Oh

Johannes married Catharina Schlott about 1816 in York County, Pennsylvania. Catharina (daughter of Johann Adam Schlott and Anna Maria Catharina Holder) was born on 20 Jul 1794 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 21 Sep 1794 in Lower Windsor Twp, York County, Pennsylvania; died on 16 Sep 1854 in Seneca County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]